WoW: Maraudon

[Frank E]

Hi,

Our group took a first run at the princess in Maraudon yesterday and
well.... it didn't quite go as expected <g>. The rest of the dungeon
was pretty much trivial but we wiped to the Princess with a group that
really should have been able to handle her easily.

Group was 48 druid, 48 hunter, 51 rogue, 54 Paladin, 57 hunter. Looks
like my rogue will be pretty useless in that fight but we had plenty
of range DPS and the pally had no trouble keeping agro (except when
feared). Even the AoE didn't cause many agro problems. So, my question
is, are there any tricks to that fight that we're missing or did we
just not have the DPS to overcome the bouncing around of our melees?

Since I'm on the subjcet, another quick question about that dungon.
Where is that pool that one needs for the Vyletongue corruption quest?


Thanks in advance for any help,

Rgds, Frank

[Chris]

2 tanks help a lot with princess.

I've killed her many times and usually we get wiped due to poor
healers. With a good preist and 2 competent tanks princess is easy.

How did the fight go down? what went wrong? Tank get killed?

A lot of the other bosses are quite a lot more difficult imho.

[Frank E]

Post by Chris
2 tanks help a lot with princess.
I've killed her many times and usually we get wiped due to poor
healers. With a good preist and 2 competent tanks princess is easy.
How did the fight go down? what went wrong? Tank get killed?

The fight really went south when the pally and I got feared. The high
lvl hunter took agro, got killed, and things went to hell from there.
Even with a combat rez on the hunter, things were too chaotic by the
time he came back and we wiped.

A guildie mentioned using Nature resistance potions for the AoE, that
might help us but not sure what else we can do differently in that
fight.

... possibly let the pets tank at the beginning and let the paladin
handle the initial heals? Seems like our major problem was that the
paladin spent too much time stunned/running to help out much with
healing in the first half of the battle. Our group needs the pally to
handle the initial healing for us to do well in tough fights.

Lack of tankage wasn't a problem, I don't think. The 57 hunter makes a
decent tank against a 51 elite and I can tank her for 2 15 second
spurts with evasive and preparation.

Thanks for your input,

Frank

[Adam Smith]

Post by Frank E
... possibly let the pets tank at the beginning and let the paladin
handle the initial heals? Seems like our major problem was that the
paladin spent too much time stunned/running to help out much with
healing in the first half of the battle. Our group needs the pally to
handle the initial healing for us to do well in tough fights.

I can't really think of anything beyond what you've already said. The
group you have looks on paper like it should be able to handle the
princess. It's always a tough fight, though. Maybe having the
Paladin heal the pets first is the way to go for you.

Anyway, u is right about completing the rod quest that lets you warp
straight into the falls whenever you want. I don't know the details
(because I never did it myself, just piggybacked on other people's
rods) but it's worth your time because it'll allow you to make
repeated visits to the four bosses in that area, which drop all kinds
of useful gear.

[u]

Though Mauradon is scenically one of the most striking instances in the
whole game, you can't take the Princess lightly. For those that don't know,
she has a um...errr... "gaseous" Area of Effect attack. No more discussion
is necessary on that other than to say it knocks you back about 30-50 yards
and stuns you to boot. What's rough about her is that it's hard to keep in
close contact with her long enough actually let the damage dealers to their
work. Frank's group doesn't seem to have a heavy duty heal-bot component to
it, and that may have been your weak point. Druid group heals are very
helpful, as are Paladin heals, but you really need a priest in the
background throwing up the Major heals to make this part of the instance go
smoothly. My opinions, other factors may have been at work here.

They Vyltetongue corruption quest is down the first right hand turn at the
junction of the purple and orange caves. It's any of the orange pools that
inhabit that section. Just stand in it and right click to fill your vial.
At that point you head full hog into the orange crystal instance, doing the
blooms along the way and eventually ending up at Viletongue him/it self.

One last thing Frank, have you done the staff quest yet? The one that lets
you warp straight to the Princess instance in the Earth Falls? THAT may be
the coolest thing in the entire game. Have your PrntScrn button ready,
that's all I have to say about that :)

Xanex.....UndeadRogueazon, i love that part, just love it.

Post by Frank E
Hi,
Our group took a first run at the princess in Maraudon yesterday and
well.... it didn't quite go as expected <g>. The rest of the dungeon
was pretty much trivial but we wiped to the Princess with a group that
really should have been able to handle her easily.
Group was 48 druid, 48 hunter, 51 rogue, 54 Paladin, 57 hunter. Looks
like my rogue will be pretty useless in that fight but we had plenty
of range DPS and the pally had no trouble keeping agro (except when
feared). Even the AoE didn't cause many agro problems. So, my question
is, are there any tricks to that fight that we're missing or did we
just not have the DPS to overcome the bouncing around of our melees?
Since I'm on the subjcet, another quick question about that dungon.
Where is that pool that one needs for the Vyletongue corruption quest?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Rgds, Frank

[Frank E]

Post by u
Though Mauradon is scenically one of the most striking instances in the
whole game, you can't take the Princess lightly. For those that don't know,
she has a um...errr... "gaseous" Area of Effect attack. No more discussion
is necessary on that other than to say it knocks you back about 30-50 yards
and stuns you to boot. What's rough about her is that it's hard to keep in
close contact with her long enough actually let the damage dealers to their
work. Frank's group doesn't seem to have a heavy duty heal-bot component to
it, and that may have been your weak point. Druid group heals are very
helpful, as are Paladin heals, but you really need a priest in the
background throwing up the Major heals to make this part of the instance go
smoothly. My opinions, other factors may have been at work here.

Our group tends to do pretty well with paladin/druid healer, I
honestly don't think I've grouped with a priest in the last 10 levels.
This fight might be a problem for that healing duo though, if the
paladin spends too much time stunned/feared, we loose half of our
healing.

Post by u
They Vyltetongue corruption quest is down the first right hand turn at the
junction of the purple and orange caves. It's any of the orange pools that
inhabit that section.

I had directions from a guildie to look for the orange cave but didn't
see any orange pools. ... but we might have missed that part, we tried
to go as straight to the princess as possible. I do have a map of the
zone at home, can't find the link here... Is there a named spawn close
to that pool?

Post by u
One last thing Frank, have you done the staff quest yet? The one that lets
you warp straight to the Princess instance in the Earth Falls? THAT may be
the coolest thing in the entire game. Have your PrntScrn button ready,
that's all I have to say about that :)
Xanex.....UndeadRogueazon, i love that part, just love it.

No I have not, tell me more!

I have the two quests already mentioned (princess and Vyletongue) and
one that started out with killing the prophet outside of the dungeon.
Is that staff quest among those?

Thanks for your input,
Frank

[u]

Post by Frank E
I had directions from a guildie to look for the orange cave but didn't
see any orange pools. ... but we might have missed that part, we tried
to go as straight to the princess as possible. I do have a map of the
zone at home, can't find the link here... Is there a named spawn close
to that pool?

The friendly female dryad that gives you the quest, the one standing in the
middle of the pool. Look for her, any orange pools near her will work just
fine.

Post by Frank E
No I have not, tell me more!

And ruin it for you? No way! Have you ever dreamed of BaseJumping though?
:) PrntScrn button, have it ready :)

Post by Frank E
I have the two quests already mentioned (princess and Vyletongue) and
one that started out with killing the prophet outside of the dungeon.
Is that staff quest among those?

I speak of the Rod of Celebrus quest. You'll be able to complete it upon
reaching Celebrus himself. Future instance runs will not involve fighting
through the orange and purple caves, you'll be able to warp right from the
first Khan to Earth Falls.

Post by Frank E
Thanks for your input,
Frank

Xanex.....UndeadRogueazon, my pleasure :)

[Frank E]

Post by u

Post by Frank E
I had directions from a guildie to look for the orange cave but didn't
see any orange pools. ... but we might have missed that part, we tried
to go as straight to the princess as possible. I do have a map of the
zone at home, can't find the link here... Is there a named spawn close
to that pool?

The friendly female dryad that gives you the quest, the one standing in the
middle of the pool. Look for her, any orange pools near her will work just
fine.

Hmm, are we talking inside the actual instance or pools before you get
to the instance entrance? I think I might have been looking in the
wrong place. That might also explain the problem with the
Vyletonguequest, if these pools are outside the instance proper.

Post by u

Post by Frank E
No I have not, tell me more!

And ruin it for you? No way! Have you ever dreamed of BaseJumping though?
:) PrntScrn button, have it ready :)

I just wanted the name of the quest, found it now that I have a name.
I tend to prefer going into Instances w/o looking stuff up the first
time because I really don't like to spoil things if possible, which
does lead to some spectacular wipes.

... famous last words "Nah, lets not clear the entire cathedral (in
SM) before engaging the boss". <g>

Well, we have some more stuff to try now. Thanks for your input.

Rgds,
Frank

[u]

Post by Frank E
Hmm, are we talking inside the actual instance or pools before you get
to the instance entrance?

outside, in the orange caves but before going into the Viletongue instance.

Post by Frank E
... famous last words "Nah, lets not clear the entire cathedral (in
SM) before engaging the boss". <g>

Xanex....UndeadRogueazon, well in that case... go ahead and run along the
INSIDE wall of the spiral ramp in Razorfen Down. Just kidding, don't do
that! :)

[Frank E]

Post by u

Post by Frank E
Hmm, are we talking inside the actual instance or pools before you get
to the instance entrance?

outside, in the orange caves but before going into the Viletongue instance.

This would explain why I've never been able to find that damn pool.
<g>

Rgds, Frank

[McDLT]

Post by Frank E
No I have not, tell me more!
I have the two quests already mentioned (princess and Vyletongue) and
one that started out with killing the prophet outside of the dungeon.
Is that staff quest among those?
Thanks for your input,
Frank

In order to get the rod you have to fight two other bosses and form the rod.
One of them is named Noxxion. He is the most difficult boss in the whole
place (harder than the princess). He is an elemental that constantly spawns
4-5 other elementals that destroy your main tank and aggro onto any healers.
He is extremely tough to beat without a good mage to do AoE. He is so tough
that they are going to be making him easier in the next patch for mage-less
groups. Worst thing about him is that when he dies, he will crash your game!
I've had everyone in a group except one person crash right when he dies. The
one person then rolls on the loot not knowing we all crashed and wins it
uncontested. As a result I've never, ever won any loot from Noxxion.

BTW, I really hate Noxxion...

[luong]

Every instance group needs a priest! You can pull it off with secondary
healers, but honestly, it's no substitution for a priest. And those
secondary healers need to be good at what they are doing.

And I agree, when you make the staff to port to inner Maraudon, you need to
get your screenshot button ready. It's very pretty. =)

Post by u
Though Mauradon is scenically one of the most striking instances in the
whole game, you can't take the Princess lightly. For those that don't know,
she has a um...errr... "gaseous" Area of Effect attack. No more discussion
is necessary on that other than to say it knocks you back about 30-50 yards
and stuns you to boot. What's rough about her is that it's hard to keep in
close contact with her long enough actually let the damage dealers to their
work. Frank's group doesn't seem to have a heavy duty heal-bot component to
it, and that may have been your weak point. Druid group heals are very
helpful, as are Paladin heals, but you really need a priest in the
background throwing up the Major heals to make this part of the instance go
smoothly. My opinions, other factors may have been at work here.
They Vyltetongue corruption quest is down the first right hand turn at the
junction of the purple and orange caves. It's any of the orange pools that
inhabit that section. Just stand in it and right click to fill your vial.
At that point you head full hog into the orange crystal instance, doing the
blooms along the way and eventually ending up at Viletongue him/it self.
One last thing Frank, have you done the staff quest yet? The one that lets
you warp straight to the Princess instance in the Earth Falls? THAT may be
the coolest thing in the entire game. Have your PrntScrn button ready,
that's all I have to say about that :)
Xanex.....UndeadRogueazon, i love that part, just love it.

Post by Frank E
Hi,
Our group took a first run at the princess in Maraudon yesterday and
well.... it didn't quite go as expected <g>. The rest of the dungeon
was pretty much trivial but we wiped to the Princess with a group that
really should have been able to handle her easily.
Group was 48 druid, 48 hunter, 51 rogue, 54 Paladin, 57 hunter. Looks
like my rogue will be pretty useless in that fight but we had plenty
of range DPS and the pally had no trouble keeping agro (except when
feared). Even the AoE didn't cause many agro problems. So, my question
is, are there any tricks to that fight that we're missing or did we
just not have the DPS to overcome the bouncing around of our melees?
Since I'm on the subjcet, another quick question about that dungon.
Where is that pool that one needs for the Vyletongue corruption quest?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Rgds, Frank