feeding pets

[John Salerno]

Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

[Darin Johnson]

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

I never tried feeding a lot at once. My guess is that
the game won't let you (either you can't do it, or the
first action gets cancelled).

If you have decent food (35 happiness on each tick) then
it doesn't take long. As soon as m pet's happiness hits
yellow, a single good fish can bring him to max.

--
Darin Johnson

[pv+ (PV)]

Post by Darin Johnson
I never tried feeding a lot at once. My guess is that
the game won't let you (either you can't do it, or the
first action gets cancelled).

It will let you, but it's completely wasted. You need to wait until the
'eating' icon runs out to gain any benefit. Otherwise all you're doing is
resetting the happiness ticks you get from feeding your pet.

The eating buff lasts about 20 seconds, or until you put your pet into
combat, whichever coems first. *

[Mr Murloc]

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

Yes that is wasting it alot, do that at high level and it will cost you a
fortune.
When you feed your pet it gets a buff called Pet feed effect, this lasts for
about 10 seconds, you can check the combat log to see how much happiness he
is getting.

Usually the food has to be within 20 levels of the pet to give it max
happiness 35 per tick.

When you feed it multiple times you are just restarting the buff from 0
seconds, so if the buff lasts for 10 seconds you might get 15 seconds of
feeding time, because feeding him 5 pieces of food isn't instant (the time
it takes you to click the icon, or drag it from your bag)

Infact feeding him multiple times you may get less happiness than feeding
him once, as you may keep feeding him inbetween a tick of happiness so it
goes back to the start.

If you feed him 5 pieces and wait for the buff to go off then you get 50
seconds of the Pet feed effect buff. Although you would probably never feed
him 5 times in a row unless its +17 happiness food and hes really unhappy.

[Snowblade]

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

Don't feed your pet again until the first feed buff ends. There are two
ways to see check a feed buff for completion: 1. watch the combat log; 2.
place your mouse pointer on your pet's portrait to see if the bone icon has
disappeared.

[flame_thrower]

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

switch to the combat log and wait until it finishes gaining happiness from
the feed effect before you feed it again unless its a green happy smile it
doesn't need more - but still give it something every 5-10 minutes or as you
see fit.

[John Salerno]

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

Thanks guys! I never realized you could look at the combat log and
actually see the amount of happiness the pet was getting!

[Doc]

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

Feeding a pet again before the 'pet feed effect' wears off (10 ticks over 20
seconds, less if your pet reaches full happiness before the effect has run
it's normal course) is just wasting food.

A decent quality food (that which gives your pet 35 happiness per tick (350
happiness total) - check your combat log) will take a pet from "just" yellow
all the way to full happiness. If you're using a lower quality food (17
happiness per tick), it's gonna take 2 feedings, but you must let the first
feeding finish before starting the second.
--
Doc
'Virtute et armis!'

Llane server
60 Warrior
52 Warlock

Skywall server
61 Rogue
70 Hunter

[John Salerno]

Post by Doc

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

Feeding a pet again before the 'pet feed effect' wears off (10 ticks over 20
seconds, less if your pet reaches full happiness before the effect has run
it's normal course) is just wasting food.
A decent quality food (that which gives your pet 35 happiness per tick (350
happiness total) - check your combat log) will take a pet from "just" yellow
all the way to full happiness. If you're using a lower quality food (17
happiness per tick), it's gonna take 2 feedings, but you must let the first
feeding finish before starting the second.

So once it turns green, does it help to feed it again, or is it maxed out?

[Darin Johnson]

Post by John Salerno
So once it turns green, does it help to feed it again, or is it maxed out?

No, it's only maxed out when the feed pet effect messages show
that the pet isn't getting anymore happiness. Ie, it may show
35, 35, 35, 26, 0, 0, or something like that.

--
Darin Johnson

[John Salerno]

Post by Darin Johnson

Post by John Salerno
So once it turns green, does it help to feed it again, or is it maxed out?

No, it's only maxed out when the feed pet effect messages show
that the pet isn't getting anymore happiness. Ie, it may show
35, 35, 35, 26, 0, 0, or something like that.
--
Darin Johnson

Thanks. One last thing...is there a way to show this message in the
general chat window? I see it in the combat log, but I can't find the
proper option to turn on to show it in general.

Thanks.

[Raginbull]

Post by John Salerno

Post by Darin Johnson

Post by John Salerno
So once it turns green, does it help to feed it again, or is it maxed out?

No, it's only maxed out when the feed pet effect messages show
that the pet isn't getting anymore happiness. Ie, it may show
35, 35, 35, 26, 0, 0, or something like that.
--
Darin Johnson

Thanks. One last thing...is there a way to show this message in the
general chat window? I see it in the combat log, but I can't find the
proper option to turn on to show it in general.
Thanks.

While I don't believe you can add that to the combat log, you do know
you can separate the combat log from the general window to see both at
once, right?
That's usually the 1st thing I do when starting a new char.
I keep chat window on the bottom left and combat window on the bottom
right by the bags.
That way I get all the information I need and can size them
individually.

[John Salerno]

Post by Raginbull
While I don't believe you can add that to the combat log

You mean general?

, you do know

Post by Raginbull
you can separate the combat log from the general window to see both at
once, right?

i'm aware of this option, but not how to do it :) i'm sure it's a matter
of right-clicking and finding it in the list though

[Ashen Shugar]

I think it was John Salerno <***@NOSPAMgmail.com> that wrote
something like...

Post by John Salerno

Post by Raginbull
While I don't believe you can add that to the combat log

You mean general?

Either way, I believe it can be added to the general chat pane. Just
right click on the tab, then under one the spells submenu, you should
be able to tick one of the options there to have it display your pet
getting fed. Though you might have to have other messages display
there as well, such as a message whenever any buff or debuff effects
your pet, or possibly even any other party memeber.
Play around with it. It's too late at night for me to do it for you.

Post by John Salerno
, you do know

Post by Raginbull
you can separate the combat log from the general window to see both at
once, right?

i'm aware of this option, but not how to do it :) i'm sure it's a matter
of right-clicking and finding it in the list though

Right click on the tab for the combat window and the top option should
be "unlock". Click that and the combat window will jump out into the
middle of your screen where you can then click and drag it wherever
you want. Or you can just click and drag it without doing the unlock
thing.

Ashen Shugar

[John Salerno]

Post by Ashen Shugar
Play around with it. It's too late at night for me to do it for you.

It's not like I haven't tried. There was even an option I chose that was
something like "Show pet buffs", but even that didn't work. I don't see
anything else that would be it, and I'd rather not waste the food trying
each thing if someone happens to know how to do it.

[Raginbull]

Post by John Salerno

Post by Ashen Shugar
Play around with it. It's too late at night for me to do it for you.

It's not like I haven't tried. There was even an option I chose that was
something like "Show pet buffs", but even that didn't work. I don't see
anything else that would be it, and I'd rather not waste the food trying
each thing if someone happens to know how to do it.

Yeah I meant general, sorry.
Anyway, since I'm not sure of how to add things to general, to
separate the combat log just Left click on the Combat tab and drag it
wherever. That will separate it from general.
One thing though, it has occurred to me that I have never tried to put
them back together, as such I assume you can but am not sure how.

[Ashen Shugar]

I think it was "Raginbull" <***@gmail.com> that wrote
something like...

Post by Raginbull

Post by John Salerno

Post by Ashen Shugar
Play around with it. It's too late at night for me to do it for you.

It's not like I haven't tried. There was even an option I chose that was
something like "Show pet buffs", but even that didn't work. I don't see
anything else that would be it, and I'd rather not waste the food trying
each thing if someone happens to know how to do it.

Yeah I meant general, sorry.
Anyway, since I'm not sure of how to add things to general, to
separate the combat log just Left click on the Combat tab and drag it
wherever. That will separate it from general.
One thing though, it has occurred to me that I have never tried to put
them back together, as such I assume you can but am not sure how.

You add stuff to the general pane the same way you add things to the
other panes.

And putting them back together it's just a matter of dragging one pane
over the other until the vertical edge of the pane tab highlights.

Ashen Shugar

[John Salerno]

Post by Raginbull
Yeah I meant general, sorry.
Anyway, since I'm not sure of how to add things to general, to
separate the combat log just Left click on the Combat tab and drag it
wherever. That will separate it from general.
One thing though, it has occurred to me that I have never tried to put
them back together, as such I assume you can but am not sure how.

I never realized but my combat log window was unlocked already, I just
never thought to drag it around before. But I did and now have them
separate. Seems like to recombine them you just drag it back over and it
"snaps" back into place.

[pv+ (PV)]

Post by Raginbull
While I don't believe you can add that to the combat log, you do know
you can separate the combat log from the general window to see both at
once, right?

Any messages in the combat log can be put into the general chat window -
they're just chat windows that happen to be premade for you. Right click on
the tab, and check off the things you want to see displayed. I'm doing this
from memory, but I think you want to check "pet's beneficial spell effects"
to see feed pet ticks. You'll probably get other messages from doing this
too, some you might not want.

A simple way to see if feed pet is on is to target your pet when you
feed them, and wait for the bone icon to disappear. Since you're not going
to want to be in combat while feeding (it immediately removes the feed
pet buff), this doesn't do any harm. *

[Tech Ron]

Post by John Salerno
Thanks. One last thing...is there a way to show this message in the
general chat window? I see it in the combat log, but I can't find the
proper option to turn on to show it in general.

Yeah it is possible to add it to general, not sure exactly what option
it is, but when I was a nub I set up my own combat window before I
realized that there was already one set up. In this window it
displays how much happiness he is gaining on each tick. So there is
an option that you can enable to show it, just need to figure out
which one. Theres a few different options for pet messages, just
start turning them on one by one in general until it starts showing
it, then turn the other ones off.

[Doc]

Post by John Salerno

Post by Doc

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

Feeding a pet again before the 'pet feed effect' wears off (10 ticks over
20 seconds, less if your pet reaches full happiness before the effect has
run it's normal course) is just wasting food.
A decent quality food (that which gives your pet 35 happiness per tick
(350 happiness total) - check your combat log) will take a pet from
"just" yellow all the way to full happiness. If you're using a lower
quality food (17 happiness per tick), it's gonna take 2 feedings, but you
must let the first feeding finish before starting the second.

So once it turns green, does it help to feed it again, or is it maxed out?

As I said, it takes a full feeding to take a pet to full green from "just"
yellow... In other words, it's happiness has only turned from green to
yellow in the last minute or so.
--
Doc
'Virtute et armis!'

Llane server
60 Warrior
52 Warlock

Skywall server
61 Rogue
70 Hunter

[Ian Noble]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:07:28 -0400, John Salerno

Post by John Salerno
Does it make a difference if you feed your pet a lot of food at once, or
is that just wasting it until the first piece takes effect?

You're wasting food.

1) Feeding your pet starts up the "Feed Pet Effect" buff.

2) While the buff is active (6 ticks of 3 seconds each), your pet
gains Happiness each tick.

3) How much Happiness is gained each tick depends on what sort of food
you feed to the pet.

4) Feeding the pet again before the buff has expired resets the tick
counter to zero, so any unused ticks are lost.

Also, it's not possible to feed the pet beyond its maximum Happiness,
so after a while the pet won't gain more Happiness no matter how much
food you feed it.

Cheers - Ian

[Ian Noble]

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:29:35 +0100, Ian Noble

Post by Ian Noble
2) While the buff is active (6 ticks of 3 seconds each)

Hmm. Other people say 10. Could be right. I was feeding at
near-full health just now, and got varying numbers of ticks, from 4-6,
sometimes ending with several giving 0 increase. Odd.

Cheers - Ian

[Catriona R]

Post by Ian Noble
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:29:35 +0100, Ian Noble

Post by Ian Noble
2) While the buff is active (6 ticks of 3 seconds each)

Hmm. Other people say 10. Could be right. I was feeding at
near-full health just now, and got varying numbers of ticks, from 4-6,
sometimes ending with several giving 0 increase. Odd.

The ticks I get vary, usually between 8 and 10, but can be as low as 6.
I've no clue why, I'd expect it to always be the same, but it isn't :-/