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t***@gmail.com
2013-11-17 02:41:17 UTC
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I have the original disk of the game I found in one of my father's old programming books. I am eager to try it out (I have never played any warcraft games in my life, was going to mark this as my first.), however whenever I open the game from DOS, the screen just shows a bunch of crash results. The disk is somewhat beat up a bit, but only one scratch. What do I do?
unknown
2013-11-17 07:35:36 UTC
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<***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:8f8f667f-eca1-482b-b372-***@googlegroups.com...
I have the original disk of the game I found in one of my father's old
programming books. I am eager to try it out (I have never played any
warcraft games in my life, was going to mark this as my first.), however
whenever I open the game from DOS, the screen just shows a bunch of crash
results. The disk is somewhat beat up a bit, but only one scratch. What do I
do?

She (probably) no can take it Mon Kapitain , or you can try and jump through
a lot of hoops to maybe get it working.
A lot of older games have clocking, memory and video problems with newer PCs
it is running on a machine 1000 times faster, usually a bucket load of
things happen in the wrong timing order, or the memory management is just
not supported
And just to clarify that World of Warcraft=WOW=war-crack is the online game
based on the Warcraft stand-alone games.
If you want WOW you can play the first 20 levels free, but no auction house
or trading,
(gratuitous car analogy) it has no windscreen, only 3 tyres, and only
first gear
just download from Blizzard
and kiss your life away
https://us.battle.net/account/creation/wow/signup/
there are different servers for US and EU
[ this may be redundant information, but better too much than not enough ]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-10-want-to-play-the-old-warcraft-rts-games-on-a-modern-computer
We're fans of Warcraft 1, Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3, and we'd love to replay
those games for sure."

Warcraft: Orcs & Humans launched in November 1994 on PC, and launched the
universe that eventually spawned the World of Warcraft MMO. Warcraft 2:
Tides of Darkness launched a year later in December 1995, again on PC. These
games are available to play on modern PCs, but require nifty workarounds.

Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos (July 2002) and its expansion The Frozen Throne
(July 2003) are available to buy and do work on modern PCs.
Lewis
2013-11-17 15:11:29 UTC
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Post by unknown
Warcraft: Orcs & Humans launched in November 1994 on PC,
Like all Blizzard games, it came out for both the Mac and PC at the same
time (normally on the same install media, but I a not sure about the
firs Warcraft game).
Post by unknown
and launched the
Tides of Darkness launched a year later in December 1995, again on PC. These
games are available to play on modern PCs, but require nifty workarounds.
Blizzard announced at this past Blizzcon they were working on getting the
original games running under a modern OS.
--
'What good is a candle at noonday?' --Sourcery
Michael
2013-11-17 08:43:20 UTC
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Post by t***@gmail.com
I have the original disk of the game I found in one of my father's old programming books. I am eager to try it out (I have never played any warcraft games in my life, was going to mark this as my first.), however whenever I open the game from DOS, the screen just shows a bunch of crash results. The disk is somewhat beat up a bit, but only one scratch. What do I do?
You probably need DOSBOX to get an old DOS game to run on a nowadays
operating system.
http://www.dosbox.com/
unknown
2013-11-17 10:15:03 UTC
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Post by Michael
Post by t***@gmail.com
I have the original disk of the game I found in one of my father's old
programming books. I am eager to try it out (I have never played any
warcraft games in my life, was going to mark this as my first.), however
whenever I open the game from DOS, the screen just shows a bunch of crash
results. The disk is somewhat beat up a bit, but only one scratch. What
do I do?
You probably need DOSBOX to get an old DOS game to run on a nowadays
operating system.
http://www.dosbox.com/
But if they haven't played before it probably isn't worth the effort.

[ in general for 20 year old games you once played ]
It used to run in probably 320x240 , maybe 640x480, maybe on a high end $500
14 inch, on a 33 MHz pc with a 80 Megabyte drive and 2M of memory and it
was magnificent , compared to anything else that was around.

in your memory The game is 7680x4320 100hz 64 bit with glowing golden
pixels
well worth the $3000 a decent PC cost back
then to run it ($7500 in todays money)
the reality gremlins must have erased it and substituted this
chunky scratchy clunky 8/16 bit dreck


The whole point of the graphics is to distract you until the mind control
locks in, then it could just as well be alpha text and stick figures. So
what will todays killer game and graphics on $3000 hardware look like in
20years? :-)
unknown
2013-12-10 09:09:20 UTC
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Post by Michael
You probably need DOSBOX to get an old DOS game to run on a nowadays
operating system.
http://www.dosbox.com/
But if they haven't played before it probably isn't worth the effort.
[ in general for 20 year old games you once played ]
It used to run in probably 320x240 , maybe 640x480, maybe on a high end $500
14 inch, on a 33 MHz pc with a 80 Megabyte drive and 2M of memory and it
was magnificent , compared to anything else that was around.
in your memory The game is 7680x4320 100hz 64 bit with glowing golden
pixels
well worth the $3000 a decent PC cost back
then to run it ($7500 in todays money)
the reality gremlins must have erased it and substituted this
chunky scratchy clunky 8/16 bit dreck
The whole point of the graphics is to distract you until the mind control
locks in, then it could just as well be alpha text and stick figures. So
what will todays killer game and graphics on $3000 hardware look like in
20years? :-)
Cleaning out the junk I found some old games
Dune, WCI and III, civ, dungeonkeeper
and gave DOSBOX a try
it really is very good
with some tweaks a lot of these old favourites kinda worked.
By the time of WC2 it even had some self setting of soundcards.

Usually tuning so as not to fly off the map in 0.01ms was the major
problem , sometimes sound , sometimes mouse but mostly they were
workable and DOSBOX works fine on win 64bit.

Many had checks and the manuals long ago turned to mouse nests but a bit
of google turned up old prints and cracks.

If you hanker after the old stuff you -could- give it a go
BUT
unfortunately...apart from Hack which still runs in win64 anyway they
really are nothing like the memory
In fact most are really pretty dreadful
It isn't the graphics, it is that mostly they are just so unergonomic
click to select, click to move, minimal options, groups,waypoints,
they are pretty much straight down the rails
a zerg, a build, a case of RSI

Your memories do the games the justice they deserve for the service they
gave at the time. Trying them now puts them hopelessly out of context.
If you must then DOSBOX is useful if a bit tweaky, then again the games
used to be very tweaky on many systems anyway.

In the meantime I have been enjoying hack, at the moment I play it more
than Planetside 2, at least I last more than a minute and for all the
graphics it makes just as much sense :-)
2.5MB vs 12.5GB
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetHack

There really hasn't been that much change apart from the graphics, and a
bit more ergonomic. The bags are still too tiny, but at least Hack
simulated slowing down if you tried to carry a horse in your backpack :-)
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