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[p***@gmail.com]

As I've mentioned in another thread, I'm leveling an Affliction Warlock. This
is the first toon I've tried leveling from start, at full tilt, in a very
long time.

He's tricked out in full heirlooms, and with the guild buff has a 55% XP boost.
My basic strategy is to queue for instances, and quest while waiting for them
to pop.

With the quests available on the first run through an instance, at lvl 50, an
instance generates roughly a full level of XP. Single quests give nearly 10%
of a level each.

As a result, I'm outgrowing zones before I've even half completed them, and
skipping some entirely. I'm missing a lot of quest lines I've enjoyed in the
past. But I want to get this toon up to 90 quickly.

I'm also getting some strangeness due to not picking up every flight point - at
one time I flew from SW to Burning Steppes, and found my toon routed via Light's
Hope Chapel in Eastern Plaguelands.

pt

[unknown]

Post by p***@gmail.com
As I've mentioned in another thread, I'm leveling an Affliction Warlock. This
is the first toon I've tried leveling from start, at full tilt, in a very
long time.
He's tricked out in full heirlooms, and with the guild buff has a 55% XP boost.
My basic strategy is to queue for instances, and quest while waiting for them
to pop.
With the quests available on the first run through an instance, at lvl 50, an
instance generates roughly a full level of XP. Single quests give nearly 10%
of a level each.
As a result, I'm outgrowing zones before I've even half completed them, and
skipping some entirely. I'm missing a lot of quest lines I've enjoyed in the
past. But I want to get this toon up to 90 quickly.
I'm also getting some strangeness due to not picking up every flight point - at
one time I flew from SW to Burning Steppes, and found my toon routed via Light's
Hope Chapel in Eastern Plaguelands.

You will have flying soon so you won't need them anyway :-)
or at least can do a quick fly around and pick strategic ones up just so
you can get places on afk. A little bit more xp as well.

XP will slow down a bit soon but still you can miss big chunks of zones
up until pandaland. Even there you can pretty much be at 87 and go to
the white tiger,i.e opening up eternal blossoms, after the first zone.

Of course eternal blossoms isn't anymore and there are a lot of sha
between the gate and the city so may as well wait a couple more levels
anyway. Even 90 is simple and then you get flying straight away.

Remember to check out the vendors in new expansions to fill non herloom
slots, there is a big step in mob whackage at each. Instance gear may
make up for skipping the higher quest rewards but it can't hurt to just
check.
Not so necessary for a lock, I am just showing melee/tank mentality.

[Urbin]

Post by p***@gmail.com
As I've mentioned in another thread, I'm leveling an Affliction Warlock. This
is the first toon I've tried leveling from start, at full tilt, in a very
long time.
He's tricked out in full heirlooms, and with the guild buff has a 55% XP boost.
My basic strategy is to queue for instances, and quest while waiting for them
to pop.

Back a few years I did the same with my Shaman (from level 15), my druid
(from level 33) and my worgen warrior (from level 15). I did it not so much
because I wanted it to be quick but because I had never healed or tanked
before and wanted to gain as much experience while levelling up so I
wouldn't need to learn at max level where people expect you to know your
stuff. The shaman healed his way from 15 to 85, the two others tanked their
way from 33 to 65 and from 15 to 42.

Post by p***@gmail.com
With the quests available on the first run through an instance, at lvl 50, an
instance generates roughly a full level of XP. Single quests give nearly 10%
of a level each.

It probably wasn't quite as much XP back then, but even so, I found
levelling through instances with questing during the wait time (though the
wait times were usually very short) to be very quick. I especially enjoye
this as I had levelled 6 other characters to various levels by questing, so
I didn't mind missing some quest lines too much.

Post by p***@gmail.com
I'm also getting some strangeness due to not picking up every flight point - at
one time I flew from SW to Burning Steppes, and found my toon routed via Light's
Hope Chapel in Eastern Plaguelands.

Every once in a while I would travel around the zones to pick up the flight
points jus to avoid this. Not so much of a problem what with auto-porting
into instances when the group was complete, though.

Cheers
Urbin

[Peter T.]

Post by p***@gmail.com
With the quests available on the first run through an instance, at lvl 50, an
instance generates roughly a full level of XP. Single quests give nearly 10%
of a level each.

Yeah. And when you enter a completed dungeon its usually gives you
50-75% of a full bar anyway. :)

Post by p***@gmail.com
As a result, I'm outgrowing zones before I've even half completed them, and
skipping some entirely. I'm missing a lot of quest lines I've enjoyed in the
past. But I want to get this toon up to 90 quickly.

When I leveled my shammy recently I guess the exp ratio between zone
questing and dungeons was 20%/80%. I remember I once took a FP from
Exodar to Stonetalon Mountains and I entered 4 or 5 dungeons before I
even got to SM. When I finally got there all the quests were green so I
hearthed back to exodar and picked up a new questing zone.

Post by p***@gmail.com
I'm also getting some strangeness due to not picking up every flight point - at
one time I flew from SW to Burning Steppes, and found my toon routed via Light's
Hope Chapel in Eastern Plaguelands.

!!! :D

Im leveling a rogue in my own personal guild. My mains are in a raiding
guild. But I like the silence and not being bothered with a busy guild
chat. So I try to do as many quests as possible on my rogue as I want
he bountiful bags perk. With all heirlooms the quests in a specific
zone becomes green and grey faster than light. That means no 60K guild
exp...

[p***@gmail.com]

Post by Peter T.

Post by p***@gmail.com
With the quests available on the first run through an instance, at lvl 50, an
instance generates roughly a full level of XP. Single quests give nearly 10%
of a level each.

Yeah. And when you enter a completed dungeon its usually gives you
50-75% of a full bar anyway. :)

Post by p***@gmail.com
As a result, I'm outgrowing zones before I've even half completed them, and
skipping some entirely. I'm missing a lot of quest lines I've enjoyed in the
past. But I want to get this toon up to 90 quickly.

When I leveled my shammy recently I guess the exp ratio between zone
questing and dungeons was 20%/80%. I remember I once took a FP from
Exodar to Stonetalon Mountains and I entered 4 or 5 dungeons before I
even got to SM. When I finally got there all the quests were green so I
hearthed back to exodar and picked up a new questing zone.

Post by p***@gmail.com
I'm also getting some strangeness due to not picking up every flight point - at
one time I flew from SW to Burning Steppes, and found my toon routed via Light's
Hope Chapel in Eastern Plaguelands.

!!! :D
Im leveling a rogue in my own personal guild. My mains are in a raiding
guild. But I like the silence and not being bothered with a busy guild
chat. So I try to do as many quests as possible on my rogue as I want
he bountiful bags perk. With all heirlooms the quests in a specific
zone becomes green and grey faster than light. That means no 60K guild
exp...

I've just dinged 58. Still in heirlooms, and quest rewards or best available
in AH. I'm considering whether to hit Outland right away, or wait till 60. Any
opinions?

pt

[unknown]

Post by p***@gmail.com

Post by Peter T.

Post by p***@gmail.com
With the quests available on the first run through an instance, at lvl 50, an
instance generates roughly a full level of XP. Single quests give nearly 10%
of a level each.

Yeah. And when you enter a completed dungeon its usually gives you
50-75% of a full bar anyway. :)

Post by p***@gmail.com
As a result, I'm outgrowing zones before I've even half completed them, and
skipping some entirely. I'm missing a lot of quest lines I've enjoyed in the
past. But I want to get this toon up to 90 quickly.

When I leveled my shammy recently I guess the exp ratio between zone
questing and dungeons was 20%/80%. I remember I once took a FP from
Exodar to Stonetalon Mountains and I entered 4 or 5 dungeons before I
even got to SM. When I finally got there all the quests were green so I
hearthed back to exodar and picked up a new questing zone.

Post by p***@gmail.com
I'm also getting some strangeness due to not picking up every flight point - at
one time I flew from SW to Burning Steppes, and found my toon routed via Light's
Hope Chapel in Eastern Plaguelands.

!!! :D
Im leveling a rogue in my own personal guild. My mains are in a raiding
guild. But I like the silence and not being bothered with a busy guild
chat. So I try to do as many quests as possible on my rogue as I want
he bountiful bags perk. With all heirlooms the quests in a specific
zone becomes green and grey faster than light. That means no 60K guild
exp...

I've just dinged 58. Still in heirlooms, and quest rewards or best available
in AH. I'm considering whether to hit Outland right away, or wait till 60. Any
opinions?

The only real question is flying.
I -think- you can get it at 60 now then fly in outland so planing to
pass through a capital and pick it up on the way to outland is an
options. Or leave your hearth near a trainer for a quick trip back.
[ also I am unsure about any new trainers, the outland one used to be a
pain to get to but now they are in SW/Orig ]

Otherwise and most probably
Outland now
XP is higher, so 60 is closer, rewards are higher and your gear should
be fine

The only other thing may be not lvl qualifying for some quests or if you
are gathering mats for or leveling gathering professions. Which you
should have left until flying then gone back :-)

Same thing goes for Northrend. Some people prefer a little bit longer in
Nagrand for the scenery but I -think- you can get Cold Weather Flying
from the city trainer at 68 so should be able to fly in northrend after
that. That should speed up Northrend a LOT.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Flight#Riding_trainers
http://www.wowwiki.com/Cold_Weather_Flying
[ so many patches so many changes, so few neurons left :-) ]


Just a suggestion, depending on how badly you want to get to 90 ASAP.
Since it is still you playing other chars and leveling slows once you
get to 85+ you may consider resting it for a week and doing other stuff.
At those levels a levels worth of rested xp makes much more difference.

[Catriona R]

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Post by unknown

Post by p***@gmail.com
I've just dinged 58. Still in heirlooms, and quest rewards or best available
in AH. I'm considering whether to hit Outland right away, or wait till 60. Any
opinions?

The only real question is flying.
I -think- you can get it at 60 now then fly in outland so planing to
pass through a capital and pick it up on the way to outland is an
options. Or leave your hearth near a trainer for a quick trip back.
[ also I am unsure about any new trainers, the outland one used to be a
pain to get to but now they are in SW/Orig ]

Outland flying trainer moved to Honor Hold/Thrallmar ages ago
(actually, before they ecisted in SW/Org, I believe), so that's no
problem :-) Although if you have high rep with SW/Org you may prefer
to save some gold and get it there, that said, it's not a hgue saving
now the price has come down!

Post by unknown
Otherwise and most probably
Outland now
XP is higher, so 60 is closer, rewards are higher and your gear should
be fine

Yep, also do Ramparts and you'll be about 60 already with all those
heirlooms, so not too much time on the ground waiting to get squished
by a fel reaver ;-)

[unknown]

Post by Catriona R
Outland flying trainer moved to Honor Hold/Thrallmar ages ago
(actually, before they ecisted in SW/Org, I believe), so that's no
problem :-) Although if you have high rep with SW/Org you may prefer
to save some gold and get it there, that said, it's not a hgue saving
now the price has come down!

Post by unknown
Otherwise and most probably
Outland now
XP is higher, so 60 is closer, rewards are higher and your gear should
be fine

well then go go go :-)
I tend not to memorise NPC much any more, they change, memory can be wrong.
Just google, get it , then forget it.

Post by Catriona R
Yep, also do Ramparts and you'll be about 60 already with all those
heirlooms, so not too much time on the ground waiting to get squished
by a fel reaver ;-)

Here little piggy, I just want your liver.
Darn!
Why do so many of these boars have no liver?
And Why is the ground shaking.....?
meeeep

It was tough back when a good 70s purple 2-H weapon did 400-600/150 dps
but no so good against a 'it will do for now' 10,000/2,000 mop green
supercharged with 15x the strike and against 15x defense in front of 15x
the health.
Poor little fel reaver fel down, ohhh does it hurt? TELL ME IT HURTS
YOU %$#$# PIECE OF %$%$%$# SORDARFING ^*&^%$#!!!

I need a little lie down and a bex now :-)

Additionally the Outland elites have all been nerfed to death now, but
the reaver hasn't been updated as far as I know or noticed
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=18411/durn-the-hungerer
has been whittled down to little more than a very agressive left toe

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=18733/fel-reaver#comments:0
not so much

[p***@gmail.com]

Post by unknown

Post by p***@gmail.com
I've just dinged 58. Still in heirlooms, and quest rewards or best available
in AH. I'm considering whether to hit Outland right away, or wait till 60. Any
opinions?

The only real question is flying.
I -think- you can get it at 60 now then fly in outland so planing to
pass through a capital and pick it up on the way to outland is an
options. Or leave your hearth near a trainer for a quick trip back.
[ also I am unsure about any new trainers, the outland one used to be a
pain to get to but now they are in SW/Orig ]
Otherwise and most probably
Outland now
XP is higher, so 60 is closer, rewards are higher and your gear should
be fine

That's pretty much my thought - flying would be very helpful, but isn't
required. One of my reasons to go early is to get the Outland greens and
blues earlier - they're a big step up on the older gear.

Post by unknown
The only other thing may be not lvl qualifying for some quests or if you
are gathering mats for or leveling gathering professions. Which you
should have left until flying then gone back :-)

Great minds think alike. I decided this one would be a miner/engineer.
However, I levelled up into areas where I couldn't mine very quickly,
and decided to let it go until I had flying.

Post by unknown
Same thing goes for Northrend. Some people prefer a little bit longer in
Nagrand for the scenery but I -think- you can get Cold Weather Flying
from the city trainer at 68 so should be able to fly in northrend after
that. That should speed up Northrend a LOT.

I think Nagrand is one of my favorite zones in the game.

Post by unknown
http://www.wowwiki.com/Flight#Riding_trainers
http://www.wowwiki.com/Cold_Weather_Flying
[ so many patches so many changes, so few neurons left :-) ]
Just a suggestion, depending on how badly you want to get to 90 ASAP.
Since it is still you playing other chars and leveling slows once you
get to 85+ you may consider resting it for a week and doing other stuff.
At those levels a levels worth of rested xp makes much more difference.

That's an excellent point.

pt

[unknown]

Post by p***@gmail.com

Post by unknown
The only other thing may be not lvl qualifying for some quests or if you
are gathering mats for or leveling gathering professions. Which you
should have left until flying then gone back :-)

Great minds think alike. I decided this one would be a miner/engineer.
However, I levelled up into areas where I couldn't mine very quickly,
and decided to let it go until I had flying.

a miner engineer
you poor deluded fool , run, just RUN and never ever look back :-)
that was my first character

Actually engineering probably isn't that bad. The problem was I thought
the various items may help since levelling was so sloooooow back then,
and you had to hand pick each mined item and walk uphill both ways to
get the other mats. Nubish thinking it mattered and a lot of DOH

They don't help, most are useless, a lot just fail and explode.
Do gems randomly explode? no, do potions randomly poison you? no.
So it was a lot of wasted effort at levels where it was a pain to put
them together.
You won't have that temptation or noob DOHlusion so it may be not so
bad. Or it may just really suck rocks.
[ given the mining mats requirement, yes it does suck rocks :-) ]

For the mining you have a choice , get flying then get mining up to
outland level, or just forget about it for a long time.
Flying really makes it very very very easy, you get a bit of xp from
ores not too low, a bit of exploration xp when it may still be significant.

Most older ores fetch very good prices, which means they are going to be
expensive to get without mining so the time to mine them now probably
equates to the time later, apart from the occasional current level mob
ambush, but you can handle that anyway. Flying makes getting to those
hard to get at nodes so much easier.
The mining buff is very slight and would make little difference to a
warlock.

[ this assumes the recipies haven't been nerfed or mats relaxed from
WOTLK days , some probably have ]

Check thorium and fel iron ore prices, see if they are sky high or dirt
cheap. If cheap enough you could just smelt your way, you need the bars
anyway, BUT then you should level engineering so you don't smelt too many.
Ores can be prospected so usually bring a higher price than bars.
[ check the AH bar prices as well ]
http://www.wow-professions.com/wowguides/wow-mining-leveling-guide-with-smelting

In northrend cobalt is the stopper, you need a lot of cobalt but there
just aren't a lot of nodes.
Cobalt in the first areas, saronite and titanium in the upper ares.
Grab every single cobalt node you can at first, flying again makes it
easier but really they are sparse and if anyone is farming you will be
lucky to get enough to level engineering as you pass through.
Given that you are also passing very quickly.
Saronite is everywhere and easily bought or farmed later, titanium is
the rare so grab them when you see them.
Saying that at least it isn't you and 1,000 others trying to farm.
Any left over should get a good price anyway.
The gemstones with the nodes don't hurt either. most fetch around 2-3
ores each on the AH


In cata and panda you barely get to mount before stumbling across a node
BUT there tend to be more farmers.
Cata you can at least fly and not so many farmers.

Panda you are at level and still on the ground, go for a node, draw a
mob, 3 ilvl-gazillion farmers with flight zoom in with a flurry of wings
mine! MINE!! MINE !! then fly away , leaving just the sound of a pack of
manic rabbits not so quietly grinding you into the dust.

[p***@gmail.com]

Post by unknown

Post by p***@gmail.com

Post by unknown
The only other thing may be not lvl qualifying for some quests or if you
are gathering mats for or leveling gathering professions. Which you
should have left until flying then gone back :-)

Great minds think alike. I decided this one would be a miner/engineer.
However, I levelled up into areas where I couldn't mine very quickly,
and decided to let it go until I had flying.

a miner engineer
you poor deluded fool , run, just RUN and never ever look back :-)
that was my first character [...]

My main is a herbalist/alchemist. I maxed farming, and found that planting
Enigma seeds gives me enough mats that I usually don't need to herb at all.
Making flasks is my main money-maker.

I thought engineering might be fun, but if it's such a drag I'll reconsider.
Mining just went with that well. Its also (weakly) recommended at icy-veins.

pt

[unknown]

Post by p***@gmail.com
My main is a herbalist/alchemist. I maxed farming, and found that planting
Enigma seeds gives me enough mats that I usually don't need to herb at all.
Making flasks is my main money-maker.
I thought engineering might be fun, but if it's such a drag I'll reconsider.
Mining just went with that well. Its also (weakly) recommended at icy-veins.

It may be, I am very very biased :-)

What it produces may be of some individual use in endgame, and a few
convenience doodads mostly depricated but not much marketable.
On occasion blizzard gift engineering with some big ticket luxury item
but their usefulness barely lasts a patch and they usually need a packet
of expensive mats.
http://www.wowhead.com/news=204180/mists-of-pandaria-engineering-overview-updated-for-5-4

Blingtron is always popular to put down, and you get a regular lot of
packages, it may even pay for itself in a couple of years :-)
Lets see, chance of a chopper drop 0.015% [ assuming the drops are even
accurate], hmm 50/50 chance of a drop in 6 years.
At least the packages don't explode and take 30% health.







Mining on the other hand is well worth levelling if you don't have one
already if only to have access to mats or help the guild farm if it
needs some.

[unknown]

Post by p***@gmail.com
My main is a herbalist/alchemist. I maxed farming, and found that planting
Enigma seeds gives me enough mats that I usually don't need to herb at all.
Making flasks is my main money-maker.
I thought engineering might be fun, but if it's such a drag I'll reconsider.
Mining just went with that well. Its also (weakly) recommended at icy-veins.

Another thing to look out for once you get to panda mining is

http://www.wowhead.com/item=85777/ancient-pandaren-mining-pick#comments

You may even have it already from other char drops
Not worth camping but nice to put on a miner if you happen to have/get it.
I got mine by accident on the first quest run through, didn't even
realise it was treasure spawn, if it sparkles loot it :-)
maybe it isn't being camped as much.

I like it because the miner can stand around with a pick and a hardhat,
when doing engineering it has a large spanner ,a hammer and welding
goggles. Bored enough to roleplay :-).

[Catriona R]

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Post by unknown

Post by p***@gmail.com
My main is a herbalist/alchemist. I maxed farming, and found that planting
Enigma seeds gives me enough mats that I usually don't need to herb at all.
Making flasks is my main money-maker.
I thought engineering might be fun, but if it's such a drag I'll reconsider.
Mining just went with that well. Its also (weakly) recommended at icy-veins.

Another thing to look out for once you get to panda mining is
http://www.wowhead.com/item=85777/ancient-pandaren-mining-pick#comments
You may even have it already from other char drops
Not worth camping but nice to put on a miner if you happen to have/get it.
I got mine by accident on the first quest run through, didn't even
realise it was treasure spawn, if it sparkles loot it :-)
maybe it isn't being camped as much.
I like it because the miner can stand around with a pick and a hardhat,
when doing engineering it has a large spanner ,a hammer and welding
goggles. Bored enough to roleplay :-).

Thanks for reminding me, I still don't have that one! I see it's boA
not BoP so I may send one of my stealthers to camp that mine (too much
hassle getting around the place with all those siders without stealth
:-P) - it's a popular one though, I've found almost all possible rare
spawn items like that, but not this one!

[unknown]

Post by Catriona R
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 01:28:19 +1030, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by unknown

Post by p***@gmail.com
My main is a herbalist/alchemist. I maxed farming, and found that planting
Enigma seeds gives me enough mats that I usually don't need to herb at all.
Making flasks is my main money-maker.
I thought engineering might be fun, but if it's such a drag I'll reconsider.
Mining just went with that well. Its also (weakly) recommended at icy-veins.

Another thing to look out for once you get to panda mining is
http://www.wowhead.com/item=85777/ancient-pandaren-mining-pick#comments
You may even have it already from other char drops
Not worth camping but nice to put on a miner if you happen to have/get it.
I got mine by accident on the first quest run through, didn't even
realise it was treasure spawn, if it sparkles loot it :-)
maybe it isn't being camped as much.
I like it because the miner can stand around with a pick and a hardhat,
when doing engineering it has a large spanner ,a hammer and welding
goggles. Bored enough to roleplay :-).

Thanks for reminding me, I still don't have that one! I see it's boA
not BoP so I may send one of my stealthers to camp that mine (too much
hassle getting around the place with all those siders without stealth
:-P) - it's a popular one though, I've found almost all possible rare
spawn items like that, but not this one!

It doesn't give much at all, but it does give, and sometimes bountiful
bags procs on it.
At least I think b-b procs, I do seem to get a tiny trickle of decent
gems and sometimes 2 or three extra. Two quite high gems showing up when
you next check the bags is quite nice.
Maybe only 150g-300g an hour, if AH as-is, nice to have as a passive
effect. I tend to farm fairly intensively for that hour.

[Catriona R]

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Post by unknown
It doesn't give much at all, but it does give, and sometimes bountiful
bags procs on it.
At least I think b-b procs, I do seem to get a tiny trickle of decent
gems and sometimes 2 or three extra. Two quite high gems showing up when
you next check the bags is quite nice.
Maybe only 150g-300g an hour, if AH as-is, nice to have as a passive
effect. I tend to farm fairly intensively for that hour.

As a miner/jewelcrafter who mines everything in sight when I'm doing
archaeology and the like, I'd probably get a fairly decent benefit
from it... if I actually get it before this expansion ends lol ;-)

[unknown]

Post by Catriona R
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:01:38 +1030, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by unknown
It doesn't give much at all, but it does give, and sometimes bountiful
bags procs on it.
At least I think b-b procs, I do seem to get a tiny trickle of decent
gems and sometimes 2 or three extra. Two quite high gems showing up when
you next check the bags is quite nice.
Maybe only 150g-300g an hour, if AH as-is, nice to have as a passive
effect. I tend to farm fairly intensively for that hour.

As a miner/jewelcrafter who mines everything in sight when I'm doing
archaeology and the like, I'd probably get a fairly decent benefit
from it... if I actually get it before this expansion ends lol ;-)

there is also
http://www.wowhead.com/item=87213/mist-piercing-goggles#comments
See more nodes, doesn't have to be equiped.
Looking up the price for crafting/selling they are in the low
hundreds, picked up 3 sets for ~200g each not worth the effort to do it
myself :-) But if you have points going wasting...

and
http://www.wowhead.com/item=86566#comments
BOP cloth gloves that speed up pandaria gathers, 9 armour, thats it.
that drop off a rare at 10%, or certain timeless mobs at 0.8%
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=50332
If you are overpowered no problem but my seriously alts have a problem.

You can just outrun with speed enchant but the SOB will follow you all
the way to the Alliance camp and they won't sodding well engage it.
It resets when you are well on the other side of the camp.
It isn't so much the rare but all the others mobs wandering around it.


They haven't dropped, my alts one the other hand...
so have to go on the comments for what looks like a rather large
increase. I certainly hope they are right :-)

[Catriona R]

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Post by unknown

Post by Catriona R
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:01:38 +1030, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by unknown
It doesn't give much at all, but it does give, and sometimes bountiful
bags procs on it.
At least I think b-b procs, I do seem to get a tiny trickle of decent
gems and sometimes 2 or three extra. Two quite high gems showing up when
you next check the bags is quite nice.
Maybe only 150g-300g an hour, if AH as-is, nice to have as a passive
effect. I tend to farm fairly intensively for that hour.

As a miner/jewelcrafter who mines everything in sight when I'm doing
archaeology and the like, I'd probably get a fairly decent benefit
from it... if I actually get it before this expansion ends lol ;-)

there is also
http://www.wowhead.com/item=87213/mist-piercing-goggles#comments
See more nodes, doesn't have to be equiped.
Looking up the price for crafting/selling they are in the low
hundreds, picked up 3 sets for ~200g each not worth the effort to do it
myself :-) But if you have points going wasting...

If my engineer was actually in pandaria I'd be doing my skillups on
those, but he isn't lol. Keep meaning to buy a pair but it feels kinda
late in the expansion to be worth bothering tbh. Didn't know they
didn't have to be equipped though, that may make it more worthwhile!

Post by unknown
and
http://www.wowhead.com/item=86566#comments
BOP cloth gloves that speed up pandaria gathers, 9 armour, thats it.
that drop off a rare at 10%, or certain timeless mobs at 0.8%

Got those... on my tauren herbalist. It doesn't stack with racials.
Sigh :-P

Post by unknown
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=50332
If you are overpowered no problem but my seriously alts have a problem.
You can just outrun with speed enchant but the SOB will follow you all
the way to the Alliance camp and they won't sodding well engage it.
It resets when you are well on the other side of the camp.
It isn't so much the rare but all the others mobs wandering around it.

Heh, he's never alive on my server for me to try him, got mine from
Timeless isle :-)

Post by unknown
They haven't dropped, my alts one the other hand...
so have to go on the comments for what looks like a rather large
increase. I certainly hope they are right :-)

Just don't get them on a character that already has the racial, you'll
be cursing your luck. I don't even play my tauren much for goodness
sake, he killed one mob that wouldn't stop chasing him on the way to
Ordos (those annoying berserkers that keep charging you forever), and
it dropped! Meanwhile my priest has killed tons of those mobs and it
hasn't dropped :-P

[unknown]

Post by Catriona R
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:44:50 +1030, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by unknown
there is also
http://www.wowhead.com/item=87213/mist-piercing-goggles#comments
See more nodes, doesn't have to be equiped.
Looking up the price for crafting/selling they are in the low
hundreds, picked up 3 sets for ~200g each not worth the effort to do it
myself :-) But if you have points going wasting...

If my engineer was actually in pandaria I'd be doing my skillups on
those, but he isn't lol. Keep meaning to buy a pair but it feels kinda
late in the expansion to be worth bothering tbh. Didn't know they
didn't have to be equipped though, that may make it more worthwhile!

I haven't tested that part yet but for so cheap I got 3 just to avoid
having to schedule and pass them around.
So cheap, 200g, xpac inflation.
There were a dozen listed for 200-300g on short time so it probably
wasn't a typo. The range has been trending down, from the 1000g I
expected to 500 to 200.
I tend to buy and COD back if someone makes a costly mistake so I checked
https://theunderminejournal.com/item.php?realm=A-Caelestrasz&item=87213
Thats the normal price range - ish.

[unknown]

Post by unknown

Post by Catriona R
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:44:50 +1030, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by unknown
there is also
http://www.wowhead.com/item=87213/mist-piercing-goggles#comments
See more nodes, doesn't have to be equiped.
Looking up the price for crafting/selling they are in the low
hundreds, picked up 3 sets for ~200g each not worth the effort to do it
myself :-) But if you have points going wasting...

If my engineer was actually in pandaria I'd be doing my skillups on
those, but he isn't lol. Keep meaning to buy a pair but it feels kinda
late in the expansion to be worth bothering tbh. Didn't know they
didn't have to be equipped though, that may make it more worthwhile!

I haven't tested that part yet but for so cheap I got 3 just to avoid
having to schedule and pass them around.
So cheap, 200g, xpac inflation.
There were a dozen listed for 200-300g on short time so it probably
wasn't a typo. The range has been trending down, from the 1000g I
expected to 500 to 200.
I tend to buy and COD back if someone makes a costly mistake so I checked
https://theunderminejournal.com/item.php?realm=A-Caelestrasz&item=87213
Thats the normal price range - ish.

I still haven't found a verifiable misty ghost iron node, to find it,
mail the goggles, see if it changes.
But there do seem to be a lot more, and a lot more rich nodes as if
people aren't tapping them.

So many that the level 80 warlock got 600 alchemy , then living steel ,
did a bar, and got riddle of steel. Went from low 500s to 600 almost all
on transmute trillium. It only took about 3 guild bank strips of ghost
iron ore which fills up ridiculously quickly. Maybe the goggles, maybe I
just enjoy farming. That and the pick got a few gems...ohh and a
transmute master in a few days, then blingtron.

I could have bought the bars but this one was being worked up just to
get alchemy, funny , I don't think it will be moving very fast now,
except maybe to go and get the spirits of harmony.

Want a profession? level a warlock banker easymode.

Of course I now see that I could have just preordered and got one anyway.

Rule of the Universe#474 : When you need it you don't have it, when you
don't need it you get them for half price.

[unknown]

Post by Catriona R
As a miner/jewelcrafter who mines everything in sight when I'm doing
archaeology and the like, I'd probably get a fairly decent benefit
from it... if I actually get it before this expansion ends lol ;-)

addition to the other post

of course technically the payback on the time to get the pick or gloves
is very very long
for the gloves -easily- at least a month of slightly faster gathering if
you did a lot

save maybe 5 minutes an hour, for say 10 hours a week, 4 weeks = 200 mins
easy to spend 200 mins checking, farming the 10%
or farming 200+ of the other mobs at 0.8%

So why do they seem so worth having?
The hope of an early drop?
The anticipation of little blissbombs 'mmmm lovely lovely gloves' every
time you gather something? :-)

[unknown]

http://www.wow-professions.com/wowguides/wow-engineering-guide.html
http://www.almostgaming.com/wowguides/wow-engineering-guide

just a cutnpast example I can't say if they are good guides
the first doesn't seem to use any of the saronite
you can see it does use a heap of cobalt, which means you may as well
smelt and get quite a few levels of mining up on cobalt in preparation
as you mine



the engineering saronite recipes usually need eternals, which you get
with mining anyway
http://www.wowhead.com/item=36913/saronite-bar#reagent-for

Blacksmith eats saronite by the truckload

Titanium, ore and bar and titansteel go for very good prices

[Peter T.]

Post by p***@gmail.com
I've just dinged 58. Still in heirlooms, and quest rewards or best available
in AH. I'm considering whether to hit Outland right away, or wait till 60. Any
opinions?

Double up on exp on quests and mobs in Outland. And still very easy to
kill.

[p***@gmail.com]

Post by Peter T.

Post by p***@gmail.com
I've just dinged 58. Still in heirlooms, and quest rewards or best available
in AH. I'm considering whether to hit Outland right away, or wait till 60. Any
opinions?

Double up on exp on quests and mobs in Outland. And still very easy to
kill.

That's what I did - of course, I was 58 <= lvl < 60 for only a couple of
hours, dinging 60 in one of the Hellfire Penninsula instances. I now have
(slow) flying, which of course makes many things much easier.

But before I got it...
I had heard that the mobs for the Valentine daily gave good XP, so I decided
to try that out - but it was in Winterspring. I'd leveled my Gnome Afflock
purely in Eastern Kingdoms, and had no FPs in Kalimdor. I also knew that to
pass the tunnel to Winterspring, I'd need to build rep with the faction there,
which I could only do in Felwood. So ... boat to Ru'thern Village, fly to
Darkshore, ride entire length of Darkshore, Ashenvale, and Felwood, only
to discover that the tunnel faction now starts out as 'unfriendly', and I
could have just flown to Moonglade and saved myself half an hour.

pt

[Urbin]

Post by p***@gmail.com
So ... boat to Ru'thern Village, fly to
Darkshore, ride entire length of Darkshore, Ashenvale, and Felwood, only
to discover that the tunnel faction now starts out as 'unfriendly', and I
could have just flown to Moonglade and saved myself half an hour.

Even back in Vanilla it was possible to run through the tunnel with only 2
or 3 deaths, which was an easy way to get the Winterspring flight path
without the tunnel rep grind. I suspect that today with the adjusted mobs
and improved gear it might have been possible with only 1 or 2 deaths. Of
course, with them at friendly, it's even easier :-)

Cheers
Urbin

[p***@gmail.com]

Post by Urbin

Post by p***@gmail.com
So ... boat to Ru'thern Village, fly to
Darkshore, ride entire length of Darkshore, Ashenvale, and Felwood, only
to discover that the tunnel faction now starts out as 'unfriendly', and I
could have just flown to Moonglade and saved myself half an hour.

Even back in Vanilla it was possible to run through the tunnel with only 2
or 3 deaths, which was an easy way to get the Winterspring flight path
without the tunnel rep grind. I suspect that today with the adjusted mobs
and improved gear it might have been possible with only 1 or 2 deaths. Of
course, with them at friendly, it's even easier :-)

After all that, the XP wasn't that great. I did get every flightpath I passed,
so it wasn't a wasted effort, but I'm not going to try the Crown Chemical
Company again on this toon.

pt