The flip-flopping Clefthoof.

[Cryptoengineer]

I've finally got my Barn up to level 3, and am now trying to farm Savage
Blood (for upgrades and AH gold). This involves trapping any of 3 Nagrand
lvl 100 elites, which is not trivial.

I've made the best progress with Mighty Clefthoofs.

My lock not only has a void tank, he's got Defender Ilsona
by his side - a largely uncontrolled pet. She's at 654 weapon,
658 armor, considerably higher than the lock.

When the three of us attack a MC, I wind up with the voidlord
and Illona at opposite ends, and the clefthoof flips directions
every few seconds, as attack-from-behind generates more aggro
than attack-from-the-front.

Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.

pt

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Cryptoengineer
I've finally got my Barn up to level 3, and am now trying to farm Savage
Blood (for upgrades and AH gold). This involves trapping any of 3 Nagrand
lvl 100 elites, which is not trivial.
I've made the best progress with Mighty Clefthoofs.
My lock not only has a void tank, he's got Defender Ilsona
by his side - a largely uncontrolled pet. She's at 654 weapon,
658 armor, considerably higher than the lock.
When the three of us attack a MC, I wind up with the voidlord
and Illona at opposite ends, and the clefthoof flips directions
every few seconds, as attack-from-behind generates more aggro
than attack-from-the-front.
Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.
pt

Ouch. That's "Ironhide Bulls", not clefthoof

[Peter T.]

Post by Cryptoengineer
Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.

1. When you attack the bull stay at the same spot while you face it
directly all the time. Just let your void get thew aggro.

2. When the bull is below 50% you put down your trap and walk like 10
steps backwards or so. Be sure your trap is on the line between you and
the bull.

3. Once you have done that so your void to passive so your void runs
through your trap. The bull follows your void through the trap. Profit.

If you want 2 cages from a single bull lay down your first trap around
50-55% health. _Dont_ move your lock! Wait ~15 secs and lay down your
second trap when off cooldown.
At this point you may have to correct the line between you and the bull
so the trap is in the line between you and the bull. Walk 10 steps
backwards. Set your void to passive and watch the bull get trapped in
both traps. Double profit. :) this works with any elite mob.

Blizzard prolly fix this exploit soon(tm) so use it while you can.

[Catriona R]

Post by Peter T.

Post by Cryptoengineer
Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.

1. When you attack the bull stay at the same spot while you face it
directly all the time. Just let your void get thew aggro.
2. When the bull is below 50% you put down your trap and walk like 10
steps backwards or so. Be sure your trap is on the line between you and
the bull.
3. Once you have done that so your void to passive so your void runs
through your trap. The bull follows your void through the trap. Profit.
If you want 2 cages from a single bull lay down your first trap around
50-55% health. _Dont_ move your lock! Wait ~15 secs and lay down your
second trap when off cooldown.
At this point you may have to correct the line between you and the bull
so the trap is in the line between you and the bull. Walk 10 steps
backwards. Set your void to passive and watch the bull get trapped in
both traps. Double profit. :) this works with any elite mob.
Blizzard prolly fix this exploit soon(tm) so use it while you can.

Use it very soon, next lot of rolling restarts will fix it, by how I'm
reading this thread:
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/356350-level-3-barn-trapping-proposal-group-play/

Does sound like overall it'll be better, as grouping would work, and
stealing will not, but yeah, no more doubletrapping, not surprising as
it was never likely to be intended ;-)

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Catriona R

Post by Peter T.

Post by Cryptoengineer
Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.

1. When you attack the bull stay at the same spot while you face it
directly all the time. Just let your void get thew aggro.
2. When the bull is below 50% you put down your trap and walk like 10
steps backwards or so. Be sure your trap is on the line between you
and the bull.
3. Once you have done that so your void to passive so your void runs
through your trap. The bull follows your void through the trap.
Profit.
If you want 2 cages from a single bull lay down your first trap around
50-55% health. _Dont_ move your lock! Wait ~15 secs and lay down
your second trap when off cooldown.
At this point you may have to correct the line between you and the
bull so the trap is in the line between you and the bull. Walk 10
steps backwards. Set your void to passive and watch the bull get
trapped in both traps. Double profit. :) this works with any elite
mob.
Blizzard prolly fix this exploit soon(tm) so use it while you can.

Use it very soon, next lot of rolling restarts will fix it, by how I'm
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/356350-level-3-barn-trapping-proposa
l-group-play/
Does sound like overall it'll be better, as grouping would work, and
stealing will not, but yeah, no more doubletrapping, not surprising as
it was never likely to be intended ;-)

Not surprising. Now that I've got the process down, farming the
clefthoof doesn't take that long. I only farm up to 7 a day.

pt

[Peter T.]

Post by Cryptoengineer
Not surprising. Now that I've got the process down, farming the
clefthoof doesn't take that long. I only farm up to 7 a day.

Hurry up. Once you get used to it you'll yawn while you dps until you
lay your first trap and second trap. :) With the small strategy I
mentioned earlier you can farm 15-20 cages per hour unless your realm is
crowded.

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Peter T.

Post by Cryptoengineer
Not surprising. Now that I've got the process down, farming the
clefthoof doesn't take that long. I only farm up to 7 a day.

Hurry up. Once you get used to it you'll yawn while you dps until you
lay your first trap and second trap. :) With the small strategy I
mentioned earlier you can farm 15-20 cages per hour unless your realm is
crowded.

I'm doing that. I've found that the Swampbeasts are the easiest, and on
my server hardly farmed at all.

The wolves are a pain in the ass.

pt

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Peter T.

Post by Cryptoengineer
Not surprising. Now that I've got the process down, farming the
clefthoof doesn't take that long. I only farm up to 7 a day.

Hurry up. Once you get used to it you'll yawn while you dps until you
lay your first trap and second trap. :) With the small strategy I
mentioned earlier you can farm 15-20 cages per hour unless your realm is
crowded.

Thanks! I'm actually managing 50-60 cages per hour (seriously). The
waterbeasts are barely touched on my server, they have no frontal cone
attack, and I don't have to search for them.

pt

[Peter T.]

Post by Cryptoengineer
Thanks! I'm actually managing 50-60 cages per hour (seriously). The
waterbeasts are barely touched on my server, they have no frontal cone
attack, and I don't have to search for them.

50-60 cages per hour?? Wow! 60 cages = 10 days. 6 hours = 360 cages =
2 months. Not bad. :)

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Peter T.

Post by Cryptoengineer
Thanks! I'm actually managing 50-60 cages per hour (seriously). The
waterbeasts are barely touched on my server, they have no frontal cone
attack, and I don't have to search for them.

50-60 cages per hour?? Wow! 60 cages = 10 days. 6 hours = 360 cages =
2 months. Not bad. :)

Actually, that was an estimate. I later timed it - I got 41 cages in 30
minutes. I did miss the twofer a couple times, and I did get killed once
when a pat showed up at the wrong moment. That would have been 80+ cages
per hour, or one Riverbeast every 90 seconds or so.

I went into the reset with 200 caged beasts, enough for a small stampede.

This is a ilvl 632 lock with a voidlord. My MO was to dps the mob down to
65-70% with the VL tanking, then stack on the VL facing the mob, and drop
the first trap. Continue dpsing, the goal being to get to 49% just as
the trap goes off cooldown. Drop the second trap, put the VL on
passive, and walk backwards a few paces while hitting an instant
attack, (to get aggro). The mod moves forward and gets trapped.

At this point, the VL is often low on health, so I'd resummon it to get
a full-health one, and reset to Assist (important). You don't have to
wait for the trapping scenario to complete.

Rinse and repeat. An important factor is location, around 37.5, 45 in
Nagrand. This is a fairly long way from any FP, and is little farmed on
my med-pop server. The leather produced sells well, and the Savage
Bloods are very welcome.

pt

[Peter T.]

Post by Cryptoengineer
Actually, that was an estimate. I later timed it - I got 41 cages in 30
minutes. I did miss the twofer a couple times, and I did get killed once
when a pat showed up at the wrong moment. That would have been 80+ cages
per hour, or one Riverbeast every 90 seconds or so.

I only farmed wolves and they were able to kill my VL at 80% health.
But it didnt happen everytime though. Destro lock 634 here.

Post by Cryptoengineer
I went into the reset with 200 caged beasts, enough for a small stampede.
This is a ilvl 632 lock with a voidlord. My MO was to dps the mob down to
65-70% with the VL tanking, then stack on the VL facing the mob, and drop
the first trap. Continue dpsing, the goal being to get to 49% just as
the trap goes off cooldown. Drop the second trap, put the VL on
passive, and walk backwards a few paces while hitting an instant
attack, (to get aggro). The mod moves forward and gets trapped.
At this point, the VL is often low on health, so I'd resummon it to get
a full-health one, and reset to Assist (important). You don't have to
wait for the trapping scenario to complete.
Rinse and repeat. An important factor is location, around 37.5, 45 in
Nagrand. This is a fairly long way from any FP, and is little farmed on
my med-pop server. The leather produced sells well, and the Savage
Bloods are very welcome.

Nice. Very nice description. :)