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Lewis
2014-05-28 02:23:55 UTC
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Well, I finished up my 5th 90 on a different class for the achievement.
Yay.

I even got iLvl up to 465 and managed to do at leas that first raid on
every 90.
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career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy
anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or
processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a
career, I don't want to do that.
Catriona R
2014-05-28 12:38:05 UTC
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On Wed, 28 May 2014 02:23:55 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Well, I finished up my 5th 90 on a different class for the achievement.
Yay.
I even got iLvl up to 465 and managed to do at leas that first raid on
every 90.
Congrats :-) I find it a bit of a shame there's no further
achievements for max lvl classes, there must be a few altaholics out
there with all 11 at 90! I'm only at 5 myself, must try and do a few
more before WoD, my crafting alts will need to get up high enough to
learn new recipes, at the very least :-)
unknown
2014-05-28 23:50:49 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
On Wed, 28 May 2014 02:23:55 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Well, I finished up my 5th 90 on a different class for the achievement.
Yay.
I even got iLvl up to 465 and managed to do at leas that first raid on
every 90.
Congrats :-) I find it a bit of a shame there's no further
achievements for max lvl classes, there must be a few altaholics out
there with all 11 at 90! I'm only at 5 myself, must try and do a few
more before WoD, my crafting alts will need to get up high enough to
learn new recipes, at the very least :-)
what!? even I have 5 , though 2 are warlocks that were bankers and just
accidentally stumbled on 90 , so may as well get some profs.
Lately it has mostly been only real play on the ranged dps, the melee
dps/tanks just get wasted by the panda attacks.
Sure if I wanted to -work- at it it is do-able even if I am pretty
pathetic at the real-time button jabbing but I don't want to -work- at
it :-)

A pretty big problem is I really don't want any more chars nor more
professions but I just can't throw away the 'free' char and skillups
with the xpac.
We still aren't connected to another realm and I just prefer to keep all
my chars together, I have a micro economy and I am going to use it.
Peter T.
2014-05-30 09:56:09 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
On Wed, 28 May 2014 02:23:55 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Well, I finished up my 5th 90 on a different class for the achievement.
Yay.
I even got iLvl up to 465 and managed to do at leas that first raid on
every 90.
Congrats :-) I find it a bit of a shame there's no further
achievements for max lvl classes, there must be a few altaholics out
there with all 11 at 90! I'm only at 5 myself, must try and do a few
more before WoD, my crafting alts will need to get up high enough to
learn new recipes, at the very least :-)
One of my guildies has 11 90es. And he VP cap them all every wednesday
+ he has the 14/14N SoO curve ach on them all! I felt I was busy when I
VP capped 5 90es every week for a long time. Now I only focus on 2-3
chars. :)
--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
Catriona R
2014-05-30 10:00:53 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by Catriona R
On Wed, 28 May 2014 02:23:55 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Well, I finished up my 5th 90 on a different class for the achievement.
Yay.
I even got iLvl up to 465 and managed to do at leas that first raid on
every 90.
Congrats :-) I find it a bit of a shame there's no further
achievements for max lvl classes, there must be a few altaholics out
there with all 11 at 90! I'm only at 5 myself, must try and do a few
more before WoD, my crafting alts will need to get up high enough to
learn new recipes, at the very least :-)
One of my guildies has 11 90es. And he VP cap them all every wednesday
+ he has the 14/14N SoO curve ach on them all! I felt I was busy when I
VP capped 5 90es every week for a long time. Now I only focus on 2-3
chars. :)
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week, just
too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
unknown
2014-05-30 11:28:07 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
Post by Peter T.
Post by Catriona R
On Wed, 28 May 2014 02:23:55 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Well, I finished up my 5th 90 on a different class for the achievement.
Yay.
I even got iLvl up to 465 and managed to do at leas that first raid on
every 90.
Congrats :-) I find it a bit of a shame there's no further
achievements for max lvl classes, there must be a few altaholics out
there with all 11 at 90! I'm only at 5 myself, must try and do a few
more before WoD, my crafting alts will need to get up high enough to
learn new recipes, at the very least :-)
One of my guildies has 11 90es. And he VP cap them all every wednesday
+ he has the 14/14N SoO curve ach on them all! I felt I was busy when I
VP capped 5 90es every week for a long time. Now I only focus on 2-3
chars. :)
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week, just
too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
it is in, at least on my us-oceanic server
I don't know if it is for a while or permanent

with valour cap it is additive

50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
Peter T.
2014-05-30 11:44:49 UTC
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Post by unknown
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
50VPs -> 75VPs (buff = 150% = 50% extra VPs). Weekly timeless quest
yields 200 VPs without buff and 300 with buff. Dailies which normally
yields 5VPs without buff yields 7/8 Vps with buff. Same with the new
Valor of Deeds. Without buff 100 VPs. With buff 150 VPs.

I can only recommend doing as much dailies and weeklys right after
weekly reset wednesday(EU) morning as there is a chance of still having
the buff from before reset.
--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
unknown
2014-05-30 16:15:35 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by unknown
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
50VPs -> 75VPs (buff = 150% = 50% extra VPs). Weekly timeless quest
yields 200 VPs without buff and 300 with buff. Dailies which normally
yields 5VPs without buff yields 7/8 Vps with buff. Same with the new
Valor of Deeds. Without buff 100 VPs. With buff 150 VPs.
I can only recommend doing as much dailies and weeklys right after
weekly reset wednesday(EU) morning as there is a chance of still having
the buff from before reset.
Yes but with the 100% vp AND valor of the ancients the buff

I just handed in the timeless 50 epoch on an alt with the vp cap buff as
well

200->200+200(heart of thevalorous)+100(valor of the ancients)=500
3k coins -> 100 ->100+100+50=250
i.e it adds not multiplies
Peter T.
2014-05-30 16:19:14 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by unknown
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
50VPs -> 75VPs (buff = 150% = 50% extra VPs). Weekly timeless quest
yields 200 VPs without buff and 300 with buff. Dailies which normally
yields 5VPs without buff yields 7/8 Vps with buff. Same with the new
Valor of Deeds. Without buff 100 VPs. With buff 150 VPs.
I can only recommend doing as much dailies and weeklys right after
weekly reset wednesday(EU) morning as there is a chance of still having
the buff from before reset.
Yes but with the 100% vp AND valor of the ancients the buff
I just handed in the timeless 50 epoch on an alt with the vp cap buff as
well
200->200+200(heart of thevalorous)+100(valor of the ancients)=500
3k coins -> 100 ->100+100+50=250
i.e it adds not multiplies
Heh. I just saw the buff here too.
--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
Peter T.
2014-06-04 08:14:12 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by unknown
200->200+200(heart of thevalorous)+100(valor of the ancients)=500
3k coins -> 100 ->100+100+50=250
i.e it adds not multiplies
Heh. I just saw the buff here too.
ARGH! Handed in weekly. 500 VPs. Straight to the valor pusher.
Bought a Pouch of Timeless Coins and not a Valor of Deeds as I only had
500 VPs. And of course I opened it by mistake before I realized what I
just did!!! :(((

I guess ticketing Blizzard for a refund is hopeless in this case...
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Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
Peter T.
2014-06-04 08:53:54 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by unknown
200->200+200(heart of thevalorous)+100(valor of the ancients)=500
3k coins -> 100 ->100+100+50=250
i.e it adds not multiplies
Heh. I just saw the buff here too.
ARGH! Handed in weekly. 500 VPs. Straight to the valor pusher. Bought
a Pouch of Timeless Coins and not a Valor of Deeds as I only had 500
VPs. And of course I opened it by mistake before I realized what I just
did!!! :(((
I guess ticketing Blizzard for a refund is hopeless in this case...
A few mins after I ticketed Blizz I was contected by a GM. He told me
once I had opened the pouch it was too late. I knew it. Anyhoo! That
was the fastest response ever. :)
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Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
Catriona R
2014-06-04 12:08:44 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by Peter T.
Post by unknown
200->200+200(heart of thevalorous)+100(valor of the ancients)=500
3k coins -> 100 ->100+100+50=250
i.e it adds not multiplies
Heh. I just saw the buff here too.
ARGH! Handed in weekly. 500 VPs. Straight to the valor pusher. Bought
a Pouch of Timeless Coins and not a Valor of Deeds as I only had 500
VPs. And of course I opened it by mistake before I realized what I just
did!!! :(((
I guess ticketing Blizzard for a refund is hopeless in this case...
A few mins after I ticketed Blizz I was contected by a GM. He told me
once I had opened the pouch it was too late. I knew it. Anyhoo! That
was the fastest response ever. :)
Oops :-( Sounds a very fast response though, at least that's a
positive, even if he couldn't tell you what you wanted to hear!
Catriona R
2014-05-30 11:56:27 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week, just
too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
it is in, at least on my us-oceanic server
I don't know if it is for a while or permanent
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
I see Wowhead reckons it lasts till June 10th, guess I'll actually
bother to try and get valor for a couple of weeks then! Shame I burned
most my timeless coins last week, I'll have to pick some more up or do
some scenarios I guess! Got family visiting this weekend but I'll have
monday and tuesday of this week and then next week too, cool :-)
Peter T.
2014-05-30 13:04:17 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Catriona R
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week, just
too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
it is in, at least on my us-oceanic server
I don't know if it is for a while or permanent
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
I see Wowhead reckons it lasts till June 10th, guess I'll actually
bother to try and get valor for a couple of weeks then! Shame I burned
most my timeless coins last week, I'll have to pick some more up or do
some scenarios I guess! Got family visiting this weekend but I'll have
monday and tuesday of this week and then next week too, cool :-)
I'm confused now. :) Will you post some links?
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Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
Catriona R
2014-05-30 13:05:47 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
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Post by unknown
Post by Catriona R
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week, just
too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
it is in, at least on my us-oceanic server
I don't know if it is for a while or permanent
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
I see Wowhead reckons it lasts till June 10th, guess I'll actually
bother to try and get valor for a couple of weeks then! Shame I burned
most my timeless coins last week, I'll have to pick some more up or do
some scenarios I guess! Got family visiting this weekend but I'll have
monday and tuesday of this week and then next week too, cool :-)
I'm confused now. :) Will you post some links?
http://www.wowhead.com/news=240854/heart-of-the-valorous-buff-100-increased-valor-point-acquisition-between-5-30-6-

Blizzard
"A heroes’ journey is long and fraught with danger, but our goblin
engineers have managed to cobble a little something special together
for you to help make the path to power just a little bit easier.

Beginning Friday, May 30 at 9:00 a.m. realm-time, through Tuesday,
June 10 at 9:00 a.m. realm-time, we’ll be applying the Heart of the
Valorous buff which will increase the rate of Valor Point gains an
additional 100%. Don’t wait to get in on the action!"
Peter T.
2014-05-30 13:06:35 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
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Post by unknown
Post by Catriona R
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week, just
too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
it is in, at least on my us-oceanic server
I don't know if it is for a while or permanent
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
I see Wowhead reckons it lasts till June 10th, guess I'll actually
bother to try and get valor for a couple of weeks then! Shame I burned
most my timeless coins last week, I'll have to pick some more up or do
some scenarios I guess! Got family visiting this weekend but I'll have
monday and tuesday of this week and then next week too, cool :-)
I'm confused now. :) Will you post some links?
Wait a sec. This was on top on mmo-champ.

<http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4034-Heart-of-the-Valorous-Buff-Live-This-Weekend?page=8#comments>
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Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
unknown
2014-05-31 02:51:14 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
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Post by unknown
Post by Catriona R
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week, just
too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
it is in, at least on my us-oceanic server
I don't know if it is for a while or permanent
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
I see Wowhead reckons it lasts till June 10th, guess I'll actually
bother to try and get valor for a couple of weeks then! Shame I burned
most my timeless coins last week, I'll have to pick some more up or do
some scenarios I guess! Got family visiting this weekend but I'll have
monday and tuesday of this week and then next week too, cool :-)
My sub ends Sunday, lately I do 1 or 2 months off then 1 on.

bloody typical , the universe continually conspires against me
and of course with the new upgrades I also spent a lot of coins on the
upgrades
doing it at the same time as the upgrade changes would have been nice
waaaaaaaaaaaah winge grump :-)

We'll all be rooned
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Said_Hanrahan
Cryptoengineer
2014-05-31 14:53:53 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
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Post by unknown
Post by Catriona R
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week,
just too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
it is in, at least on my us-oceanic server
I don't know if it is for a while or permanent
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
I see Wowhead reckons it lasts till June 10th, guess I'll actually
bother to try and get valor for a couple of weeks then! Shame I
burned most my timeless coins last week, I'll have to pick some more
up or do some scenarios I guess! Got family visiting this weekend but
I'll have monday and tuesday of this week and then next week too,
cool :-)
My sub ends Sunday, lately I do 1 or 2 months off then 1 on.
bloody typical , the universe continually conspires against me
and of course with the new upgrades I also spent a lot of coins on the
upgrades
doing it at the same time as the upgrade changes would have been nice
waaaaaaaaaaaah winge grump :-)
I have 2 90s, and both cap every week. So this extra buff is useless to
me, since the cap is still just 1000/week. That lets me do a 16 ilvl
upgrade on 2 items per toon per week, just like before. It's just a
little less grindy.

pt
Peter T.
2014-05-31 15:17:17 UTC
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Post by Cryptoengineer
I have 2 90s, and both cap every week. So this extra buff is useless to
me, since the cap is still just 1000/week. That lets me do a 16 ilvl
upgrade on 2 items per toon per week, just like before. It's just a
little less grindy.
I agree. I guess Blizzard is testing something. Maybe they consider
making the VP grinding a little lighter in WoD?
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Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
Catriona R
2014-05-31 21:02:43 UTC
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Post by Cryptoengineer
I have 2 90s, and both cap every week. So this extra buff is useless to
me, since the cap is still just 1000/week. That lets me do a 16 ilvl
upgrade on 2 items per toon per week, just like before. It's just a
little less grindy.
I agree. I guess Blizzard is testing something. Maybe they consider
making the VP grinding a little lighter in WoD?
Well, they will... by removing the need for it entirely, so far as I
know :-P No items from valor, and no upgrades any more, not sure what
it'll be used for, if anything! Maybe cosmetic stuff, or maybe it
won't be there, don't know as yet, I just know the stuff we use it for
now won't be there....
Cryptoengineer
2014-05-31 15:24:50 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week,
just too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
it is in, at least on my us-oceanic server
I don't know if it is for a while or permanent
with valour cap it is additive
50-> 50 + 50 + 25 = 125
5-> 5 + 5 +2.5 = 12 or 13 (varies, seems successive, like a hidden
decimal rolling over )
I see Wowhead reckons it lasts till June 10th, guess I'll actually
bother to try and get valor for a couple of weeks then! Shame I
burned most my timeless coins last week, I'll have to pick some more
up or do some scenarios I guess! Got family visiting this weekend
but I'll have monday and tuesday of this week and then next week
too, cool :-)
My sub ends Sunday, lately I do 1 or 2 months off then 1 on.
bloody typical , the universe continually conspires against me
and of course with the new upgrades I also spent a lot of coins on
the upgrades
doing it at the same time as the upgrade changes would have been nice
waaaaaaaaaaaah winge grump :-)
I have 2 90s, and both cap every week. So this extra buff is useless
to me, since the cap is still just 1000/week. That lets me do a 16
ilvl upgrade on 2 items per toon per week, just like before. It's just
a little less grindy.
pt
BTW, my standard plan right now involves the toons alternating on
the Valor buff. Each week, one does the 200 vp weekly and
on Monday does the 50 vp daily and as many dailies as possible,
emphasizing the ones which can be re-done the same day, and carries
them over.

Tuesday morning he turns in the carried over dailies, about 500 vp
worth, in a few minutes, then does the remaining available dailies
while he still has the buff carried over from last week. This gets
him up to 650-700.

After that, a scenario and a heroic push him up to about 800. Even
without LFR or the buff, he caps on Wednesday, and the other toon
can do the timeless daily, a scenario, and a heroic for 270/day
with the buff, while also stacking up the 200 vp weekly to carry
over to next week.

pt
unknown
2014-06-02 00:52:44 UTC
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Post by Cryptoengineer
I have 2 90s, and both cap every week. So this extra buff is useless to
me, since the cap is still just 1000/week. That lets me do a 16 ilvl
upgrade on 2 items per toon per week, just like before. It's just a
little less grindy.
But Blizzard is a business.
If it was just grind and complete I would have 'achieved' a lot more.
I have subscribed for 3 months in 3 years, played for about 3 weeks.
That is pretty much 16/7 in those weeks.
I have 5 90's, average is around ilvl 510, there are gaps in gear and
professions where there are time lockouts, maybe 30% 553-ish but I think
a warlock has a 399 offhand.
I hardly ever do instances, this is all welfare epics from timeless isle.
One character that happened to be closest on rep got a 5 dungeons
achievement doing violet hold? solo a couple of times to get the tundra
mammoth cheaper.
I avoid things ingame where other people rely on you to press buttons
at appropriate times but I can grind like a monkey all day on things
that can be left hanging at any time.

No business is going to encourage a ~92% drop in subscriptions as people
consumed years of content quickly. Maybe not that much but
daily and weekly lockouts. limited bags, limited professions etc do
spread things out and demand alting.
The delays are what keep wow going.
If wow relied on me it would be dead, dilettants are an unreliable
revenue stream :-)
Catriona R
2014-06-03 13:20:14 UTC
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Post by Cryptoengineer
I have 2 90s, and both cap every week. So this extra buff is useless to
me, since the cap is still just 1000/week. That lets me do a 16 ilvl
upgrade on 2 items per toon per week, just like before. It's just a
little less grindy.
Well for me it is a huge buff - I hate farming dungeons/group content,
so, outside of some huge extra effort when I was on the valor part of
the legendary chain, I haven't capped my main since the first 3-4
weeks of the expansion (when I was farming every faction's dailies all
at once), and have never got anywhere near the cap on my alts. This
week, infact, these two days, given I was busy over the weekend, I
have capped THREE characters!! :-D

Really easy as well, just the Timeless weeklies plus one 20 elites
daily and a bit of coin conversion on my main to get the 50% buff, and
alts did either 50 epoch stones plus two coin conversions or 50 epoch
stones, celestial tournament plus one coin conversion. Both alts got
the 1k valor points achievement in the process lol, that shows you how
much I usually farm valor ;-)

Next week may take a touch more farming; my alts aren't really geared
enough for easy Timeless isle farming (non-elites are ok but crap
droprates, elites are tough when your gear sucks) so the 50 epoch
stones is a big grind for them, I was already at 30-40 on each this
time out, doing 50 from scratch will take a fair bit longer, plus
they're out of coins. Wondering if I'll manage to get my 4th 90 capped
as well before tonight, I rather think he has more coins banked up
then the other two, so might be manageable (although he's supposed to
be saving them for a weapon...)

Just a pity I don't have rep to buy any useful gear with the valor,
it'll just get used for upgrades I guess, oh well! Nice to have an
event like this though, makes me wonder if they're taking the idea
from D3, which now has weekend or week-long buffs for various things
(that was originally a one-off bonus before RoS launch but was very
popular, so they keep doing them now), exp buff, legendary droprates,
currency drops, etc, etc. Would be cool if WoW did likewise, this
valor buff is fun for folk who don't usually cap out, maybe an
honor/conquest buff could be nice for pvpers, increased warforged
droprate for raiders (or increased drops of everything in raids
maybe), pet battle exp buff, increased yield from gathering... all
kinds of things they could do as temporary events.
unknown
2014-06-03 15:03:48 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
Next week may take a touch more farming; my alts aren't really geared
enough for easy Timeless isle farming (non-elites are ok but crap
droprates, elites are tough when your gear sucks) so the 50 epoch
stones is a big grind for them, I was already at 30-40 on each this
time out, doing 50 from scratch will take a fair bit longer, plus
they're out of coins. Wondering if I'll manage to get my 4th 90 capped
as well before tonight, I rather think he has more coins banked up
then the other two, so might be manageable (although he's supposed to
be saving them for a weapon...)
It is very much catch-22 don't get many buff flask drops, don't
survive long enough for them to do much.
With the cheaper valour instead of 10or20k for a weapon probably
better use out of other gear upgrades. ( and why does a two hander cost
twice as much and have much the same subsidiary useful stats as a one
hander? )

Have you done all the moss covered chest you can get to easily on each?

Tag along on the 'rares' and land something on any celestials
you can get lucky with drops and they can drop hundreds of coins each.
Get or watch if someone is running rarecoordinator or similar that
announce rares.
Make sure to get the ?? 5 per week drop tokens from lesser tokens at
the shrine for bonus on celestials, assuming catch-22 allowed you enough
to start with.
Elite tigers drop a 100 coin 'haunch'? fairly regularly , or
something for the npc anyway. Even if the stuns are a pain any healing
at all is useful when they jump away, and watch their powerful bleed at
the end.
Timeless pretty much sucks for any non-geared melee but anything with
a lot of self heals should do okay. They pretty much demand a healer.
Tag along with an undergeared healer/skinner if you can , it can get
pretty lucrative around the tiger killing fields :-)

I got most of the trinkets ,rings and amulets off the second upper
ordos area, champions and leafmender are pretty regular, huolon and
farming emperor rep anyway. Just never try and outrun the bozo on the
first bridge, multiple powerful stuns if you ride past.
The sprites are dead easy , in small numbers, use no aoe at first.
They drop a lot of coins and stones, big bag of herbs as well. Also you
are in the area to tag the frequent rares.
Sometimes opposite faction pvp flags are still possible and for me they
seem to concentrate there, probably the more regular rare 'fights'* and
trying to drop threat tables on you.

*More like 'please please let me land something before....s o b. :-)

Luck potions seem to have a small drop increase,depends what they cost you.
Post by Catriona R
Just a pity I don't have rep to buy any useful gear with the valor,
it'll just get used for upgrades I guess, oh well! Nice to have an
event like this though, makes me wonder if they're taking the idea
from D3, which now has weekend or week-long buffs for various things
(that was originally a one-off bonus before RoS launch but was very
popular, so they keep doing them now), exp buff, legendary droprates,
currency drops, etc, etc. Would be cool if WoW did likewise, this
Most freetoplay have a lot of regular buff events, have to keep
people playing and giving them more to want to spend a bit of $/time on.
Catriona R
2014-06-03 15:21:11 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
Next week may take a touch more farming; my alts aren't really geared
enough for easy Timeless isle farming (non-elites are ok but crap
droprates, elites are tough when your gear sucks) so the 50 epoch
stones is a big grind for them, I was already at 30-40 on each this
time out, doing 50 from scratch will take a fair bit longer, plus
they're out of coins. Wondering if I'll manage to get my 4th 90 capped
as well before tonight, I rather think he has more coins banked up
then the other two, so might be manageable (although he's supposed to
be saving them for a weapon...)
It is very much catch-22 don't get many buff flask drops, don't
survive long enough for them to do much.
With the cheaper valour instead of 10or20k for a weapon probably
better use out of other gear upgrades. ( and why does a two hander cost
twice as much and have much the same subsidiary useful stats as a one
hander? )
Yeah, the weapons are great compared with blues, 2 of my 3 alts have
those, last one has a 463 upgraded to 471, so could be worse! The 20k
is annoying for that alt, it's a feral druid, so *has* to use a
2-hander, can't just cheaply upgrade mainhand and leave offhand for
later!
Post by unknown
Have you done all the moss covered chest you can get to easily on each?
Yep, at least so far as I know, probably got odd ones that I don't
know about still to get though. Shame those don't drop Epoch stones,
that weekly is the best route for valor, but they're best farmed off
elites, sigh...
Post by unknown
Tag along on the 'rares' and land something on any celestials
you can get lucky with drops and they can drop hundreds of coins each.
Get or watch if someone is running rarecoordinator or similar that
announce rares.
Got it :-) But it's utterly ineffective for my alliance rogue, as
there's hardly any alliance players on my server - if dualboxing
didn't make my system struggle, I'd actually log a horde alt on and
tab to it to check RC lol...
Post by unknown
Make sure to get the ?? 5 per week drop tokens from lesser tokens at
the shrine for bonus on celestials, assuming catch-22 allowed you enough
to start with.
All alts have now run out of those, of course :-) Wish they were BoA,
my main has over two thousand of them... :-P
Post by unknown
Elite tigers drop a 100 coin 'haunch'? fairly regularly , or
something for the npc anyway. Even if the stuns are a pain any healing
at all is useful when they jump away, and watch their powerful bleed at
the end.
I tried those on my rogue just now actually, and I *can* kill them,
it's slow as heck, but works, phew! My shaman does quite well on crabs
so long as I move out of their cone move, her dps is a bit better than
the rogue's though. Haven't dared try any elites on druid, he's the
one still rocking a blue weapon, and it's my least preferred spec at
the best of times :-P
Post by unknown
Timeless pretty much sucks for any non-geared melee but anything with
a lot of self heals should do okay. They pretty much demand a healer.
Tag along with an undergeared healer/skinner if you can , it can get
pretty lucrative around the tiger killing fields :-)
Yeah, my shaman has it tons easier than my rogue or druid, being
ranged is great. Thankfully rogue has enough selfhealing to be ok on
mobs to some extent, since finding a healer is just no chance on
alliance! I just have to suck up the repairbill and die on
Celstials/Ordos every time, melee cannot survive those without a
healer, and, no healers lol ;-)
Post by unknown
Post by Catriona R
Just a pity I don't have rep to buy any useful gear with the valor,
it'll just get used for upgrades I guess, oh well! Nice to have an
event like this though, makes me wonder if they're taking the idea
from D3, which now has weekend or week-long buffs for various things
(that was originally a one-off bonus before RoS launch but was very
popular, so they keep doing them now), exp buff, legendary droprates,
currency drops, etc, etc. Would be cool if WoW did likewise, this
Most freetoplay have a lot of regular buff events, have to keep
people playing and giving them more to want to spend a bit of $/time on.
Makes sense, it's been a very fun addition in D3 anyway, would be cool
if WoW does it sometimes too. Not needed in times with new content,
but times like now, hell yes! It's got me playing my main server for
the first time ina while anyway, so it worked on me ;-)
unknown
2014-06-03 16:11:52 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 00:33:48 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |
Got it :-) But it's utterly ineffective for my alliance rogue, as
there's hardly any alliance players on my server - if dualboxing
didn't make my system struggle, I'd actually log a horde alt on and
tab to it to check RC lol...
Post by unknown
Make sure to get the ?? 5 per week drop tokens from lesser tokens at
the shrine for bonus on celestials, assuming catch-22 allowed you enough
to start with.
All alts have now run out of those, of course :-) Wish they were BoA,
my main has over two thousand of them... :-P
Post by unknown
Elite tigers drop a 100 coin 'haunch'? fairly regularly , or
something for the npc anyway. Even if the stuns are a pain any healing
at all is useful when they jump away, and watch their powerful bleed at
the end.
I tried those on my rogue just now actually, and I *can* kill them,
it's slow as heck, but works, phew! My shaman does quite well on crabs
so long as I move out of their cone move, her dps is a bit better than
the rogue's though. Haven't dared try any elites on druid, he's the
one still rocking a blue weapon, and it's my least preferred spec at
the best of times :-P
things that drop and order of difficulty cranes, yaks/snakes, the
non-elite ordos up top( the tree on the right past the gates is safe )
the ordos supply crates can mount up if people are taking out the elites
(to keep them off you), if the bridge is clear go across and just farm
sprites-they do drop quite a lot
Post by Catriona R
Post by unknown
Timeless pretty much sucks for any non-geared melee but anything with
a lot of self heals should do okay. They pretty much demand a healer.
Tag along with an undergeared healer/skinner if you can , it can get
pretty lucrative around the tiger killing fields :-)
Yeah, my shaman has it tons easier than my rogue or druid, being
ranged is great. Thankfully rogue has enough selfhealing to be ok on
mobs to some extent, since finding a healer is just no chance on
alliance! I just have to suck up the repairbill and die on
Celstials/Ordos every time, melee cannot survive those without a
healer, and, no healers lol ;-)
Yeah, go in celestials early and you die, just wimp out and try and
land something at the last otherwise you are on your third death
cooldown at the end. But a 535 or 553? drop is worth it, the 'you
win!...30 gold wahwahwaaaah' isn't so much :-).

800 gold a day repair bill when in catch-22, at 15-20g I died a lot but
the steep curve passes fairly quickly then you can farm tigers all day
on autopilot and get a few thousand coins an hour once you can survive
long enough for the buffs to count:-)
This is small change in coins for higher geared but plenty enough for
+150% enhanced valour buffs to cap.
[ you probably do know but just in case, you can run all 3 of the
flask buffs at once , with those and the 20% stat buff you can start to
rock even with a non-timeless weapon . Just that surviving long enough
to make them count at first is a pain ]
Catriona R
2014-06-03 17:41:11 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
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Post by unknown
Elite tigers drop a 100 coin 'haunch'? fairly regularly , or
something for the npc anyway. Even if the stuns are a pain any healing
at all is useful when they jump away, and watch their powerful bleed at
the end.
I tried those on my rogue just now actually, and I *can* kill them,
it's slow as heck, but works, phew! My shaman does quite well on crabs
so long as I move out of their cone move, her dps is a bit better than
the rogue's though. Haven't dared try any elites on druid, he's the
one still rocking a blue weapon, and it's my least preferred spec at
the best of times :-P
things that drop and order of difficulty cranes, yaks/snakes, the
non-elite ordos up top( the tree on the right past the gates is safe )
the ordos supply crates can mount up if people are taking out the elites
(to keep them off you), if the bridge is clear go across and just farm
sprites-they do drop quite a lot
Aha, I didn't think of the sprites - thanks :-) Probably because
they're often dead on my server from repfarmers picking them off while
they wait for respawns, but there may be some alive, if I'm lucky! I
usually avoid those areas on anything other than my priest, as the
elites are way too much for my alts, but with some care to avoid them
it should be alright.

It's fun seeing how gear makes a difference, I remember not going near
any of the yaungol on my priest at first, then gradually being able to
carefully take the easier elites, with use of mindbender and all buffs
- now I can farm as far as the middle area without much trouble :-)
Still get owned by anything in the top bit, but hey, it's a huge
improvement, just have to remember my alts are not as tough :-)
Post by unknown
Post by Catriona R
Yeah, my shaman has it tons easier than my rogue or druid, being
ranged is great. Thankfully rogue has enough selfhealing to be ok on
mobs to some extent, since finding a healer is just no chance on
alliance! I just have to suck up the repairbill and die on
Celstials/Ordos every time, melee cannot survive those without a
healer, and, no healers lol ;-)
Yeah, go in celestials early and you die, just wimp out and try and
land something at the last otherwise you are on your third death
cooldown at the end. But a 535 or 553? drop is worth it, the 'you
win!...30 gold wahwahwaaaah' isn't so much :-).
Haha yeah, at least sometimes the gold box contains some motes; as I
like collecting recipes and both rogue and shaman are leatherworkers,
motes are good for buying them :-)

Think I hit a new record for dying on celestials earlier, it was
Chi-Ji, saw he was dropping fast, mounted up, ran in... and died
before I even touched him. Hadn't noticed he was doing that nasty aoe
where you're supposed to stand in a safe area :-P Luckily he didn't
die before I ressed and managed to actually get the tag... then I got
a box of gold that didn't add up to my repairbill ;-)
Post by unknown
800 gold a day repair bill when in catch-22, at 15-20g I died a lot but
the steep curve passes fairly quickly then you can farm tigers all day
on autopilot and get a few thousand coins an hour once you can survive
long enough for the buffs to count:-)
Hehe I get bored farming that much, but I'll try to manage it this
week at least, then I'll drop back to not bothering :-P Quite nice
playing alts for a change anyway, even if I'm mainly discovering how
very weak they are, shaman is the only one that feels vaguely safe on
TI yet, and even with her I have to take care.
Post by unknown
This is small change in coins for higher geared but plenty enough for
+150% enhanced valour buffs to cap.
[ you probably do know but just in case, you can run all 3 of the
flask buffs at once , with those and the 20% stat buff you can start to
rock even with a non-timeless weapon . Just that surviving long enough
to make them count at first is a pain ]
Hah yeah, love those buffs but living long enough can be a challenge
indeed :-) I'm in full Timeless gear on all alts, but that still feels
rather weak, compared with my priest who's up at 557 ilvl rather than
just-over-500... the buffs make a huge difference at least, especially
shrine ones :-)
Catriona R
2014-06-03 22:20:34 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
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Post by Catriona R
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Post by unknown
Elite tigers drop a 100 coin 'haunch'? fairly regularly , or
something for the npc anyway. Even if the stuns are a pain any healing
at all is useful when they jump away, and watch their powerful bleed at
the end.
I tried those on my rogue just now actually, and I *can* kill them,
it's slow as heck, but works, phew! My shaman does quite well on crabs
so long as I move out of their cone move, her dps is a bit better than
the rogue's though. Haven't dared try any elites on druid, he's the
one still rocking a blue weapon, and it's my least preferred spec at
the best of times :-P
things that drop and order of difficulty cranes, yaks/snakes, the
non-elite ordos up top( the tree on the right past the gates is safe )
the ordos supply crates can mount up if people are taking out the elites
(to keep them off you), if the bridge is clear go across and just farm
sprites-they do drop quite a lot
Aha, I didn't think of the sprites - thanks :-) Probably because
they're often dead on my server from repfarmers picking them off while
they wait for respawns, but there may be some alive, if I'm lucky! I
usually avoid those areas on anything other than my priest, as the
elites are way too much for my alts, but with some care to avoid them
it should be alright.
Yay, sprites were fine for my weak druid :-) Not many alive, however,
and not a very high droprate, spent about an hour there, gave up at 25
epoch stones (I started on 10) and just burned my coins for this
week's valor, hopefully I'll reach 50 with a bit longer to spend on it
next week.

Successful time for my druid though, I was just about to do the
coin>valor conversion when I noticed a Celestial fight going on (this
far into the week, that's rare), jumped in, tagged it and got tier
gloves, yay :-) Also spent some valor on the 522 neck, so a bit of an
upgrade overall, even if I did burn 12k of the coins I had saved for
my new weapon... next week lol ;-)

Anyway, all 4 characters valor capped, for someone who never usually
caps even one, that's a big success for the buff ;-) It's also
reminded me there's a bunch of things I'm meaning to do with various
characters, maybe I'll get round to some of it now :)
unknown
2014-06-04 00:39:29 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
Yay, sprites were fine for my weak druid :-) Not many alive, however,
and not a very high droprate, spent about an hour there, gave up at 25
epoch stones (I started on 10) and just burned my coins for this
week's valor, hopefully I'll reach 50 with a bit longer to spend on it
next week.
Yeah, better to trade now.
The problem with random specials is 'darn I spent $30 on
pureupgradewhatsits last week and now they are half price', it can make
you sad and doubtful at the lack of information and tend to stockpile
when there is no use, in retropect..
On mine the sprite rings are mostly full most of the time, part from
the leafmender one and they respawn fast so the overall rate of drop per
hour was probably much higher. Add a few champions tags and huolon tag
and it is a good area to be, if you can survive/run-away the odd elite
tag and get there and back.
Post by Catriona R
Successful time for my druid though, I was just about to do the
coin>valor conversion when I noticed a Celestial fight going on (this
far into the week, that's rare), jumped in, tagged it and got tier
gloves, yay :-) Also spent some valor on the 522 neck, so a bit of an
upgrade overall, even if I did burn 12k of the coins I had saved for
my new weapon... next week lol ;-)
Celestials run quite often all week on mine , I usually get a few goes
on alts a day.
Catriona R
2014-06-04 12:12:25 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
Yay, sprites were fine for my weak druid :-) Not many alive, however,
and not a very high droprate, spent about an hour there, gave up at 25
epoch stones (I started on 10) and just burned my coins for this
week's valor, hopefully I'll reach 50 with a bit longer to spend on it
next week.
Yeah, better to trade now.
The problem with random specials is 'darn I spent $30 on
pureupgradewhatsits last week and now they are half price', it can make
you sad and doubtful at the lack of information and tend to stockpile
when there is no use, in retropect..
Hah yeah, there's one free-to-play game I've played a while that, once
in a while I do put real money into it (in all fairness they give
enough updates that it's worth giving a little back), but luckily for
me I learned that they do bonus events now and again where you get
more for your money... so I always just wait for those now :-)
Post by unknown
On mine the sprite rings are mostly full most of the time, part from
the leafmender one and they respawn fast so the overall rate of drop per
hour was probably much higher. Add a few champions tags and huolon tag
and it is a good area to be, if you can survive/run-away the odd elite
tag and get there and back.
Yeah, it's not bad there, just a tad overfarmed on my server, probably
better at quiet times of day. At present there is no quiet area on the
isle, seems the valor buff got everyone out there again lol.
Post by unknown
Post by Catriona R
Successful time for my druid though, I was just about to do the
coin>valor conversion when I noticed a Celestial fight going on (this
far into the week, that's rare), jumped in, tagged it and got tier
gloves, yay :-) Also spent some valor on the 522 neck, so a bit of an
upgrade overall, even if I did burn 12k of the coins I had saved for
my new weapon... next week lol ;-)
Celestials run quite often all week on mine , I usually get a few goes
on alts a day.
It does on mine too, but hard to catch them, especially if I'm on
alliance (horde side I'll see someone spamming chat about it), unless
I just sit there for ages waiting. Wednesday is the best day for it,
so I'll try and get a few done today!

Cryptoengineer
2014-06-04 02:24:25 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by Catriona R
On Wed, 28 May 2014 02:23:55 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Well, I finished up my 5th 90 on a different class for the
achievement. Yay.
I even got iLvl up to 465 and managed to do at leas that first raid
on every 90.
Congrats :-) I find it a bit of a shame there's no further
achievements for max lvl classes, there must be a few altaholics out
there with all 11 at 90! I'm only at 5 myself, must try and do a few
more before WoD, my crafting alts will need to get up high enough to
learn new recipes, at the very least :-)
One of my guildies has 11 90es. And he VP cap them all every
wednesday + he has the 14/14N SoO curve ach on them all! I felt I was
busy when I VP capped 5 90es every week for a long time. Now I only
focus on 2-3 chars. :)
That's crazy :-) I can't manage to cap one character each week, just
too grindy for me. Maybe if this 100% valor buff mentioned on
MMO-Champion appears I may do it occasionally lol ;-)
I have two 90s, and capped one of them today in about 45 minutes -
he'd already stacked up the 200 & 50 vp Timeless quests, and regular
dailies, and had the 50% buff carried over from last week.

Handing in the first two got him 625, then the 22 dailies got 12.5 each,
for another 237.5. With 862.5, 3 easy dailies (37.5) and one 100 vp
scenario put him over the top.

It would have been faster, but he took time out for a Celestials
fight (just gold).

pt
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