Discussion:
Will WOTLK gear make TBC gear obsolete?
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John Salerno
2008-08-12 19:35:57 UTC
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Like TBC did to Azeroth? Is Terestrian's Stranglestaff worth trying for, or
will a green level 71 item in Northrend be better than all Outland epics
combined? :)
John Gordon
2008-08-12 19:45:42 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
Like TBC did to Azeroth? Is Terestrian's Stranglestaff worth trying for, or
will a green level 71 item in Northrend be better than all Outland epics
combined? :)
Higher-level epics like T6 and top end badge gear will probably be viable
up to level 80.

Lower-level epics like T4 may only be good until 75-76.

5-man blues will probably be replaced by level 71 or 72.
--
John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
***@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
-- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"
t***@thsu.org
2008-08-12 20:30:02 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
Like TBC did to Azeroth? Is Terestrian's Stranglestaff worth trying for, or
will a green level 71 item in Northrend be better than all Outland epics
combined? :)
The main thing you notice with better gear is that you can completely
skip the starting zone. Hellfire was a mad house when TBC was
released, and you couldn't do a single quest without competing against
a hundred other players. But since I was wearing raid gear, I could go
directly into lonely Zangarmarsh and hold my own.

The other thing I noticed was that my raid level healing gear was a
LOT better than anything you could get as quest rewards while
leveling. Thus, even though I was leveling as a feral druid, I got
just as many invites to heal as I did to tank. Which meant that I got
access to much better gear than most other players, which in turn
meant I could continue to skip zones while leveling.
--
// T.Hsu
pv+ (PV)
2008-08-12 23:16:27 UTC
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The main thing you notice with better gear is that you can completely
skip the starting zone. Hellfire was a mad house when TBC was
released, and you couldn't do a single quest without competing against
a hundred other players. But since I was wearing raid gear, I could go
Actually, that was a lot of fun. We had this undeclared pvp truce too
because everyone was so paranoid about respawns.

The nice thing about wearing T2 at BC launch was not skipping hellfire, but
doing all the "requires 3" quests solo. I never feel great questing with a
group - everyone is always in a hurry and you don't get a chance to read
the text.

The dam broke on my gear when I entered Nagrand - by the time I was out of
there all my pieces were replaced. I expect that T5 will probably serve
about as long - about halfway to 80 before I'm in all northrend stuff. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
Zil
2008-08-13 08:39:07 UTC
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The dam broke on my gear when I entered Nagrand - by the time I was out of
there all my pieces were replaced. I expect that T5 will probably serve
about as long - about halfway to 80 before I'm in all northrend stuff. *
All mistmatched odd-looking gear, no doubt ...

And just as I've got my priest into (mostly) good looking gear!
--
Zil, Level 70 NE Priest, Aman Shan're, Stormrage Europe
Urbin
2008-08-13 11:33:18 UTC
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The dam broke on my gear when I entered Nagrand - by the time I was out of
there all my pieces were replaced. I expect that T5 will probably serve
about as long - about halfway to 80 before I'm in all northrend stuff. *
All mistmatched odd-looking gear, no doubt ...
And just as I've got my priest into (mostly) good looking gear!
That's my main regret about the upcoming gear reset: The FSW set on my
warlock just looks damn nice! Ah well, I'm hoping for another good looking
tailored set at 80 :-)

Cheers
Urbin
--
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Urbin (70), Dwarven Hunter | Surana (41), Draenei Mage
Mymule (70), Gnomish Warlock | Juran (33), Nightelven Druid
Sunh (70), Nightelven Priest | Gera (26), Human Paladin
pv+ (PV)
2008-08-13 16:59:35 UTC
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Post by Zil
All mistmatched odd-looking gear, no doubt ...
I really didn't have a huge problem with that, thanks to tailoring a lot of
my leveling pieces, and wearing a giant robe most of the time that makes
mismatched pants and shoes not much of a problem.

A nice robe, a careful choice of shirt, and hiding your cloak and headpiece
can counteract almost all of the dorky armor effect. It's the non-cloth
wearers who tend to look like they dressed in the dark. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
ald
2008-08-15 03:11:43 UTC
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Post by Zil
All mistmatched odd-looking gear, no doubt ...
I really didn't have a huge problem with that, thanks to tailoring a lot of
my leveling pieces, and wearing a giant robe most of the time that makes
mismatched pants and shoes not much of a problem.
A nice robe, a careful choice of shirt, and hiding your cloak and headpiece
can counteract almost all of the dorky armor effect. It's the non-cloth
wearers who tend to look like they dressed in the dark. *
Well, since all of my cloth-wearers are in my third tier, around the
level 30 mark atm, "Hey, I resemble that remark!" ;-)

ald
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JohnR
2008-08-13 12:56:42 UTC
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Post by t***@thsu.org
The main thing you notice with better gear is that you can completely
skip the starting zone. Hellfire was a mad house when TBC was
released, and you couldn't do a single quest without competing against
a hundred other players. But since I was wearing raid gear, I could go
Actually, that was a lot of fun. We had this undeclared pvp truce too
because everyone was so paranoid about respawns.
The nice thing about wearing T2 at BC launch was not skipping hellfire, but
doing all the "requires 3" quests solo. I never feel great questing with a
group - everyone is always in a hurry and you don't get a chance to read
the text.
Locks were ridiculously OP'd at TBC launch, that's got nothing much to do
with any gear. Blizzard have spent 18 months trying to balance all other
classes with warlocks.
Blackheart - US - PvP
2008-08-15 08:13:17 UTC
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Post by JohnR
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Post by t***@thsu.org
The main thing you notice with better gear is that you can completely
skip the starting zone. Hellfire was a mad house when TBC was
released, and you couldn't do a single quest without competing against
a hundred other players. But since I was wearing raid gear, I could go
Actually, that was a lot of fun. We had this undeclared pvp truce too
because everyone was so paranoid about respawns.
The nice thing about wearing T2 at BC launch was not skipping hellfire, but
doing all the "requires 3" quests solo. I never feel great questing with a
group - everyone is always in a hurry and you don't get a chance to read
the text.
Locks were ridiculously OP'd at TBC launch, that's got nothing much to do
with any gear. Blizzard have spent 18 months trying to balance all other
classes with warlocks.-
Need a tissue?
Catriona R
2008-08-12 22:22:41 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:35:57 -0400, "John Salerno"
Post by John Salerno
Like TBC did to Azeroth? Is Terestrian's Stranglestaff worth trying for, or
will a green level 71 item in Northrend be better than all Outland epics
combined? :)
It will be less extreme than last time, anyway - I've been looking at
Wowhead's items and it seems some of my gear (all my chars are around
high lvl dungeon blues up to Kara level) will be replaced with greens
but other things won't be replaced until I get blues, or high lvl greens
(over lvl 75)

Outland blues will all be replaced fast, rep epics will as well in some
cases (my rogue's Aldor exalted sword is utterly destroyed by a lvl 72
green), but Kara level epics will hold their own more, especially as
they'll have 4-5 stats on and greens mostly just have 3.
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Naomh (70 Draenei Priest)
Sagart (70 Undead Priest)
Rosad (70 Human Warlock)
Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock)
Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter)
Buinne (70 Troll Shaman)
Tairbh (62 Tauren Druid)
Beag (60 Dwarf Paladin)
lcpltom
2008-08-13 12:45:15 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
Like TBC did to Azeroth? Is Terestrian's Stranglestaff worth trying for, or
will a green level 71 item in Northrend be better than all Outland epics
combined? :)
Eventually, all gear will be replaced. The time or level it gets
replaced at is irrelevant. WotLK doesn't have a release date yet, so
I say continue to play as if there is no expansion. Don't worry about
the expansion, or what it will do to your items, until its actually on
the horizon.
John Salerno
2008-08-13 22:29:26 UTC
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Post by lcpltom
Post by John Salerno
Like TBC did to Azeroth? Is Terestrian's Stranglestaff worth trying for, or
will a green level 71 item in Northrend be better than all Outland epics
combined? :)
Eventually, all gear will be replaced. The time or level it gets
replaced at is irrelevant. WotLK doesn't have a release date yet, so
I say continue to play as if there is no expansion. Don't worry about
the expansion, or what it will do to your items, until its actually on
the horizon.
I'm just worried about putting too much effort into getting something
that will be easily replaced. I never really grind for stuff, but I *am*
willing to run an instance several times for something. I guess you
might call that grinding. :)
Zil
2008-08-14 07:00:45 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
I'm just worried about putting too much effort into getting something
that will be easily replaced.
First, getting the items is supposed to be fun, not effort. If you
don't enjoy it, why bother? If you do enjoy it, surely it's worth
getting regardless of forthcoming obselesence.

*All* gear will eventually be replaced. Even the top-end stuff from
WotLK will be replaced at some point (assuming there's a follow-up
expansion in a couple of years time). Does that mean it's not worth
going for?

There are other reasons for going for better gear:
- it will be a longer time before you replace it
- it will make your first few levels in Northrend easier
--
Zil, Level 70 NE Priest, Aman Shan're, Stormrage Europe
John Salerno
2008-08-14 14:42:03 UTC
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Post by Zil
*All* gear will eventually be replaced. Even the top-end stuff from
WotLK will be replaced at some point (assuming there's a follow-up
expansion in a couple of years time). Does that mean it's not worth
going for?
Yeah, but working for something that lasts two years is a little better than
working for something that lasts for two months.

And aside from that, here's the thing for me: I don't raid. At level 70 I'm
basically doing quests for the fun and the gold. So there's much less of a
reason for me to put in the effort of getting an epic item since it doesn't
really benefit me as I sit at 70. I do it just for the fun and challenge of
getting something new.

But the reason I ask this question is because it would be even *more* worth
the effort if I'm able to use that epic item for a few levels after 70 when
the expansion comes out. If, however, an easily obtained green item at level
70 or 71 will replace it, then it will turn out that I never really got any
use out of the item after all -- just the challenge and reward of getting
it.

And yes, the fun of it is enough for me to want to do it, but I'm thinking
of an epic item that takes a run in a pretty long dungeon raid, and it might
not even drop, and if it does I might not be the one guaranteed to get it.
So having to do it over and over until I *do* get it is the part I consider
the work or the effort.
lcpltom
2008-08-14 14:52:45 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
Post by Zil
*All* gear will eventually be replaced. Even the top-end stuff from
WotLK will be replaced at some point (assuming there's a follow-up
expansion in a couple of years time). Does that mean it's not worth
going for?
Yeah, but working for something that lasts two years is a little better than
working for something that lasts for two months.
And aside from that, here's the thing for me: I don't raid. At level 70 I'm
basically doing quests for the fun and the gold. So there's much less of a
reason for me to put in the effort of getting an epic item since it doesn't
really benefit me as I sit at 70. I do it just for the fun and challenge of
getting something new.
But the reason I ask this question is because it would be even *more* worth
the effort if I'm able to use that epic item for a few levels after 70 when
the expansion comes out. If, however, an easily obtained green item at level
70 or 71 will replace it, then it will turn out that I never really got any
use out of the item after all -- just the challenge and reward of getting
it.
And yes, the fun of it is enough for me to want to do it, but I'm thinking
of an epic item that takes a run in a pretty long dungeon raid, and it might
not even drop, and if it does I might not be the one guaranteed to get it.
So having to do it over and over until I *do* get it is the part I consider
the work or the effort.
But you also don't know how long pre-expansion you will be using the
item. WotLK currently does not have an official release date, though
some leaks have indicated before the end of the year. That said, its
entirely possible the expansion won't come out until January, could be
pushed back to March, or if things go really badly we might not see it
till the end of next year. So, as things stand right now, go for it,
grind the dungeon, get the item.

If however a release date had been announced for say 1 week from now,
I'd probably say not to worry too much about it. Early Northrend
greens probably won't be replacing Outland epics, even the more easily
obtained epics. Early Northrend blues will probably be equal, or in
some cases better, than the easier to get Outland epics, its hard to
say there.

Also, even if some greens and blues start replacing Outland epics,
there is no way of knowing right now if there will be something to
replace the item you want. Perhaps you won't come across any quests
with an upgrade to that stuff, or you won't get lucky with any random
drops or win any rolls. When my first warlock went to Outland, he had
4 pieces of his dungeon set 1 on. While Outland greens were better
for all those pieces, I didn't find Outland items to replace all 4 of
them until I got to Terokkar. So I quested all through HFP and
Zangarmarsh before I had replaced all 4 pieces. Likewise, you might
not find an upgrade to that staff in Borean Tundra or Howling Fjord.

In other words, don't worry about the expansion and what it might do
to your gear until you've actually purchased the expansion and are
standing in Northrend.
John Salerno
2008-08-14 15:01:29 UTC
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Post by lcpltom
But you also don't know how long pre-expansion you will be using the
item.
But that's sort of my point. I won't really be "using" it at all. Right now,
with my current gear, I can solo pretty much anything, maybe even an elite
one or two levels below me. So getting any items at this point isn't really
necessary. I won't really get good use out of it until I go to Northrend.
Post by lcpltom
In other words, don't worry about the expansion and what it might do
to your gear until you've actually purchased the expansion and are
standing in Northrend.
I think you're right. Hopefully it *does* come out by the end of the year,
since I reactivated for that purpose! :)
ald
2008-08-15 03:32:57 UTC
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:01:29 -0400, "John Salerno"
Post by John Salerno
Post by lcpltom
But you also don't know how long pre-expansion you will be using the
item.
But that's sort of my point. I won't really be "using" it at all. Right now,
with my current gear, I can solo pretty much anything, maybe even an elite
one or two levels below me. So getting any items at this point isn't really
necessary. I won't really get good use out of it until I go to Northrend.
Have you considered going the PvP route? You don't mention what class
you're playing, or I haven't gotten to it yet, but my Hunter was in a
similar situation pre-BC. That's when I discovered BGs. The Don Julio
Ring that I grinded AV for didn't get replaced until *well* into
Outlands, and the current PvP rewards are better, roughly equivalent
to T4-T5, which it sounds like from comments in this thread won't be
replaced until about halfway through Northrend.
Post by John Salerno
Post by lcpltom
In other words, don't worry about the expansion and what it might do
to your gear until you've actually purchased the expansion and are
standing in Northrend.
I think you're right. Hopefully it *does* come out by the end of the year,
since I reactivated for that purpose! :)
Good luck with that, this *is* Blizzard we're talking about ;-) How
many years did we wait for the last big patch to D2? I wish I still
had that wallpaper, ah, there it is,
Loading Image...
;-)

ald
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John Salerno
2008-08-15 13:24:09 UTC
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Post by ald
Have you considered going the PvP route? You don't mention what class
you're playing, or I haven't gotten to it yet, but my Hunter was in a
similar situation pre-BC. That's when I discovered BGs. The Don Julio
Ring that I grinded AV for didn't get replaced until *well* into
Outlands, and the current PvP rewards are better, roughly equivalent
to T4-T5, which it sounds like from comments in this thread won't be
replaced until about halfway through Northrend.
That's a good idea. PvP would give me some extra longevity.

And btw, I'm a tauren druid (feral).
pv+ (PV)
2008-08-14 17:36:01 UTC
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Post by lcpltom
item. WotLK currently does not have an official release date, though
some leaks have indicated before the end of the year. That said, its
If by leak you mean "directly out of Blizzard's mouth". I think it was
Tigole who confirmed that they are planning for a 4th quarter release. My
original estimate of November is looking to be pretty close! *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
JohnR
2008-08-14 19:57:29 UTC
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Post by pv+ (PV)
Post by lcpltom
item. WotLK currently does not have an official release date, though
some leaks have indicated before the end of the year. That said, its
If by leak you mean "directly out of Blizzard's mouth". I think it was
Tigole who confirmed that they are planning for a 4th quarter release. My
original estimate of November is looking to be pretty close! *
Yeah and then another 18 months fixing it. (again)
steve.kaye
2008-08-15 07:59:32 UTC
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Post by JohnR
Post by pv+ (PV)
item.  WotLK currently does not have an official release date, though
some leaks have indicated before the end of the year.  That said, its
If by leak you mean "directly out of Blizzard's mouth". I think it was
Tigole who confirmed that they are planning for a 4th quarter release. My
original estimate of November is looking to be pretty close! *
Yeah and then another 18 months fixing it. (again)
I think that you should consider not buying the expansion. You really
don't seem to be enjoying the game anymore judging by the way your
posts have turned more and more negative over recent months.

steve.kaye
JohnR
2008-08-15 10:35:02 UTC
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Post by JohnR
Post by pv+ (PV)
item. WotLK currently does not have an official release date, though
some leaks have indicated before the end of the year. That said, its
If by leak you mean "directly out of Blizzard's mouth". I think it was
Tigole who confirmed that they are planning for a 4th quarter release. My
original estimate of November is looking to be pretty close! *
Yeah and then another 18 months fixing it. (again)
I think that you should consider not buying the expansion. You really
don't seem to be enjoying the game anymore judging by the way your
posts have turned more and more negative over recent months.

---

In all honesty you're quite right, I'm pretty frustrated with the direction
the game has gone over the last 18 months. I play a class that blizzard
destroyed during TBC and is only recently being restored to something
reasonably useful. I enjoy high end raiding and theorycrafting that's my
problem, I've got no interest left with WoW in anything other than raiding.
Osoris
2008-08-14 14:59:48 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
Post by Zil
*All* gear will eventually be replaced. Even the top-end stuff from
WotLK will be replaced at some point (assuming there's a follow-up
expansion in a couple of years time). Does that mean it's not worth
going for?
Yeah, but working for something that lasts two years is a little better than
working for something that lasts for two months.
And aside from that, here's the thing for me: I don't raid. At level 70 I'm
basically doing quests for the fun and the gold. So there's much less of a
reason for me to put in the effort of getting an epic item since it doesn't
really benefit me as I sit at 70. I do it just for the fun and challenge of
getting something new.
But the reason I ask this question is because it would be even *more* worth
the effort if I'm able to use that epic item for a few levels after 70 when
the expansion comes out. If, however, an easily obtained green item at level
70 or 71 will replace it, then it will turn out that I never really got any
use out of the item after all -- just the challenge and reward of getting
it.
And yes, the fun of it is enough for me to want to do it, but I'm thinking
of an epic item that takes a run in a pretty long dungeon raid, and it might
not even drop, and if it does I might not be the one guaranteed to get it.
So having to do it over and over until I *do* get it is the part I consider
the work or the effort.
I'm not sure what dungeon your talking about but I'll assume it is
Kara and if you haven't been there the raid is enough reason to go
save the gear. IMO it is the coolest dungeon I have been in (Haven't
been in any 25 man dungeon, raided all 40 man content save Naxx).
pv+ (PV)
2008-08-14 17:34:14 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
Yeah, but working for something that lasts two years is a little better than
working for something that lasts for two months.
Nothing you are going to get in the game will ever last 2 years, unless
you never intend to play another expansion. That's just the way it is.

If you want a piece, go for it. Otherwise, don't. Obsessing about whether
something better will come along is pointless, because it always will. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
Brian Westley
2008-08-14 19:46:03 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
Yeah, but working for something that lasts two years is a little better than
working for something that lasts for two months.
Nothing you are going to get in the game will ever last 2 years, unless
you never intend to play another expansion. That's just the way it is.
I disagree. Items that have no or few substitutes will last 2 years.

Examples:
Azure Silk Belt (+15% swim speed), no need if druid

Deepdive Helmet or Hydrocane (underwater breathing) no need if warlock/druid

(Hook of the Master Angler can be substituted for both above)

Spider Belt for WSG

Goblin Rocket Helmet/Mind Control Helmet for cheap laughs,
though the fail rates may get too high.

Gnomish net-o-matic

Parachute Cloak (slow fall) no need for mage/priest
[ will go away if any cloak can be made to slow fall, as in beta ]

There are some higher level items/sets that I could see lasting
for their effects, e.g. the Mage set that reduces Blink CD and
the Rogue boots that increase Sprint by 3 seconds.

Some low level non-nerfed consumables, like Magic Dust, never
go out of style.

I'm sure people can list more.

---
Merlyn LeRoy
lcpltom
2008-08-14 20:03:47 UTC
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Post by Brian Westley
Post by pv+ (PV)
Post by John Salerno
Yeah, but working for something that lasts two years is a little better than
working for something that lasts for two months.
Nothing you are going to get in the game will ever last 2 years, unless
you never intend to play another expansion. That's just the way it is.
I disagree. Items that have no or few substitutes will last 2 years.
Azure Silk Belt (+15% swim speed), no need if druid
Deepdive Helmet or Hydrocane (underwater breathing) no need if warlock/druid
(Hook of the Master Angler can be substituted for both above)
Spider Belt for WSG
Goblin Rocket Helmet/Mind Control Helmet for cheap laughs,
though the fail rates may get too high.
Gnomish net-o-matic
Parachute Cloak (slow fall) no need for mage/priest
[ will go away if any cloak can be made to slow fall, as in beta ]
There are some higher level items/sets that I could see lasting
for their effects, e.g. the Mage set that reduces Blink CD and
the Rogue boots that increase Sprint by 3 seconds.
Some low level non-nerfed consumables, like Magic Dust, never
go out of style.
I'm sure people can list more.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
But the possibility of those items going away or being replaced is
always present. As you pointed out, Engineering is supposedly getting
an "enchant" that will make any cloak a slow fall cloak.

Carrot on a Stick is one of those items that, pre-TBC, didn't have
anything else like it. Now we had Riding Crops, which are obviously
better. I can't see Riding Crops ever not being useful, but I can
also see them adding a new version, +15%, +20%, or maybe a -50% chance
to be dazed and dismounted when attacked while mounted.
PhilHibbs
2008-08-14 21:37:33 UTC
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I disagree.  Items that have no or few substitutes will last 2 years.
Azure Silk Belt (+15% swim speed), no need if druid
Sure, there are a few examples, but the OP was talking about some
specific epic dungeon drop, probably a heroic dungeon item from the
sound of it. Probably not many of them that have a funky keep-me
ability.

Hoofu, 70 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)
John Gordon
2008-08-14 21:46:25 UTC
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Post by PhilHibbs
Sure, there are a few examples, but the OP was talking about some
specific epic dungeon drop, probably a heroic dungeon item from the
sound of it. Probably not many of them that have a funky keep-me
ability.
And of those that do, it will likely get nerfed. *cough* Loofah
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John Salerno
2008-08-15 13:27:01 UTC
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I disagree. Items that have no or few substitutes will last 2 years.
Azure Silk Belt (+15% swim speed), no need if druid
Sure, there are a few examples, but the OP was talking about some
specific epic dungeon drop, probably a heroic dungeon item from the
sound of it. Probably not many of them that have a funky keep-me
ability.

Yeah, I had mentioned Terestian's Stranglestaff in my original post. That's
what got me thinking about my question in the first place.
Brian Westley
2008-08-15 16:12:08 UTC
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Post by PhilHibbs
I disagree. Items that have no or few substitutes will last 2 years.
Azure Silk Belt (+15% swim speed), no need if druid
Sure, there are a few examples, but the OP was talking about some
specific epic dungeon drop, probably a heroic dungeon item from the
sound of it.
What I replied to was this statement by PV:
"Nothing you are going to get in the game will ever last 2 years,
unless you never intend to play another expansion."

That simply isn't true. The game is more than just picking
gear with the most plusses; there are items with unique
properties. If all gear was just +this and +that, it would
probably be true, but that isn't the case. I HAVE gear
older than two years now that I still use on a regular basis.

If they hadn't fixed Ruby Slippers, I'd be trying to get those,
because it used to be an insta-hearth you could use while
moving or in combat.

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Merlyn LeRoy
JohnR
2008-08-15 21:57:26 UTC
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Post by Brian Westley
Post by PhilHibbs
I disagree. Items that have no or few substitutes will last 2 years.
Azure Silk Belt (+15% swim speed), no need if druid
Sure, there are a few examples, but the OP was talking about some
specific epic dungeon drop, probably a heroic dungeon item from the
sound of it.
"Nothing you are going to get in the game will ever last 2 years,
unless you never intend to play another expansion."
That simply isn't true. The game is more than just picking
gear with the most plusses; there are items with unique
properties. If all gear was just +this and +that, it would
probably be true, but that isn't the case. I HAVE gear
older than two years now that I still use on a regular basis.
If they hadn't fixed Ruby Slippers, I'd be trying to get those,
because it used to be an insta-hearth you could use while
moving or in combat.
I still use Neltharion's Tear. That's over 3 years old.
pv+ (PV)
2008-08-16 16:46:46 UTC
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Post by Brian Westley
Post by pv+ (PV)
Nothing you are going to get in the game will ever last 2 years, unless
you never intend to play another expansion. That's just the way it is.
I disagree. Items that have no or few substitutes will last 2 years.
Azure Silk Belt (+15% swim speed), no need if druid
Your examples make no sense at all - they're all specialty items and not
main armor pieces. Don't be silly. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
PhilHibbs
2008-08-14 08:36:18 UTC
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Post by John Salerno
Like TBC did to Azeroth? Is Terestrian's Stranglestaff worth trying for, or
will a green level 71 item in Northrend be better than all Outland epics
combined? :)
Just as 51-60 gear replaced your 41-50 gear, so will 71-80 gear
replace your 61-70 gear. What's the problem?

Hoofu, 70 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU).
Polarhound
2008-08-14 13:21:36 UTC
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Post by PhilHibbs
Post by John Salerno
Like TBC did to Azeroth? Is Terestrian's Stranglestaff worth trying for, or
will a green level 71 item in Northrend be better than all Outland epics
combined? :)
Just as 51-60 gear replaced your 41-50 gear, so will 71-80 gear
replace your 61-70 gear. What's the problem?
Just the QQ Brigade warming up for the post-beta whines.
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