A few observations from levelling in Draenor

Post by Urbin
Just a few more observations. I just hit 97 tonight and am about 97.5 as I
log off. I don't think I've ever levelled as fast (maybe in Pandaria, but I
only played there briefly). Comparing leveling speed to BC or Wrath, it's
amazing how fast one progresses.

It is very fast indeed, considering all the massive server issues we
had the first week, I was shocked how fast I levelled when I actually
managed to play for a reasonable amount of time, was a lot faster than
expected. Fun, but fast.

Post by Urbin
I still greatly enjoy the story lines, especially encountering places I
already know from the "future" (i.e. BC) and persons I've already
encountered (or rather will have encountered :-)
So far I've had a handful "elite" quests which suggested [3] players. I was
able to solo them all at level. Don't know if any class could do so or if
being a pet class is overpowered for these quests.

Most classes can, but it does depend on the quest a bit, there was one
in Frostfire Ridge which I very much failed at soloing on beta (the
ogre on top of a tower for those who've played Horde), luckily other
players turned up when I did it on live so I didn't have to try again!
The other day a friend asked me to help with a rylak in Spires of
Arak, however he was a death knight, and as I got there I wondered
aloud if some specs had lost Army of the Dead, given that's usually an
I-win button - cue a rather embarrassed friend who'd forgotten it
existed ;-)

The great thing with garrisons for me is the Barracks turns any class
into a pet class with the bodyguards - not as controllable as a proper
pet, which can be rather a nuisance, but it made a huge difference for
me, as a disc priest I can solo things I doubt I'd even try without
the bodyguard. I started out with the tankier ones, I'm currently
using a caster and doing the tanking myself, as I've geared up a bit -
probably now I am at a gear lvl where I could solo, but when I was 40
ilvls lower, oh wow that helped a lot :-D

Post by Urbin
Riding around the southern zone (the one after Talador, can't quite recall
its name, corresponds to Skettis in BC) to pick up flight points (without
questing) I ran into a bug. Near one flight point there are horde logging
operations. I wanted to attack a mob standing next to a sparkling tree but
was told I could not as it was a PvP flagged mob and I wasn't flagged. So I
figured I would be safe and started marking the tree for logging. Sadly the
PvP flagged horde mob attacked me and my pet auto-defended me (without me
attacking the mob) and this flagged me. Seems to be a bug to me...

Not really a bug, it's a feature which prevents you from accidentally
flagging yourself. So you can't accidentally click that flagged idiot
bouncing all over a popular questgiver for example (I used to hate
that!). Also if you go and do a BG or whatever, the flag comes off you
immediately when you leave, instead of after 5 mins, I love that, no
more having to be in a safe town before queueing :-)

However, aggressive pvp-flagged mobs still are aggressive, and you get
flagged even without a pet defending you, as I learned by finding a
Horde flightpath in Gorgrond the hard way on beta, I was mounted and
did nothing at all but had to wait out the 5 mins anyway :-P Have to
say I'd rather the mobs did not flag you if you do nothing to them,
but it's been like that for years, I used to often get flagged by
those really annoying guards on the alliance town in north Howling
Fjord - they're well positioned so they aggro if as a lowbie you
follow the obvious path, and I'd get flagged even if they didn't
actually touch me. I guess it's intended, annoying as it is.

Post by Urbin
Anyway, I should have some more time tomorrow and I expect I'll get in a few
more levels.

At your current rate of progress you'll probably hit 100 by then! Try
and have a go at the Southshore vs Tarren Mill battleground when you
get there btw, it's only temporary so you likely won't get another
chance, and it certainly brings back nostalgia - I didn't even do pvp
there in the old days but seeing the zone as it was pre-Cata brings
back memories, and it's kinda fun just slaughtering each other lol, no
flags or anything, just kill.

Molten Core is also only temporary, but you need 615 ilvl to queue,
and it might need a bit too much playtime for you to reach that in the
short time you have available, it's worth a look if you do manage to
get there though (IF any groups are actually capable of finishing the
place these days, I have a suspicion most people aren't going any
more, as all I hear is that it's a massive wipefest now the better
players stopped - although maybe higher ilvls are improving it a bit
now)

unknown

2014-12-23 07:40:59 UTC

Post by Catriona R
However, aggressive pvp-flagged mobs still are aggressive, and you get
flagged even without a pet defending you, as I learned by finding a
Horde flightpath in Gorgrond the hard way on beta, I was mounted and
did nothing at all but had to wait out the 5 mins anyway :-P Have to
say I'd rather the mobs did not flag you if you do nothing to them,
but it's been like that for years, I used to often get flagged by
those really annoying guards on the alliance town in north Howling
Fjord - they're well positioned so they aggro if as a lowbie you
follow the obvious path, and I'd get flagged even if they didn't
actually touch me. I guess it's intended, annoying as it is.

Quite a few Go here, oh look a horde base along the way , in draenor.
Maybe same for horde but alliance bases seem to be more on the edge of
maps or end of roads.
Quite a pain if you keep losing tooltips, grumble whine

Hearthstone to garrison also clears pvp, which you could be doing to
replace the suicidal bodyguard anyway :-)

Urbin

2014-12-23 08:43:13 UTC

Post by unknown
Quite a pain if you keep losing tooltips, grumble whine

So that's not just me? By now I have mapped /console reloadui to a button
:-(

Cheers
Urbin

Catriona R

2014-12-23 09:45:19 UTC

Post by unknown
Quite a pain if you keep losing tooltips, grumble whine

So that's not just me? By now I have mapped /console reloadui to a button
:-(

Nope, known bug, and very very annoying, I didn't realise how much I
relied on tooltips till they started vanishing :-(

Lewis

2014-12-25 21:48:44 UTC

Post by unknown
Quite a pain if you keep losing tooltips, grumble whine

So that's not just me? By now I have mapped /console reloadui to a button
:-(

Nope, known bug, and very very annoying, I didn't realise how much I
relied on tooltips till they started vanishing :-(

Do you also have the game randomly turn on nameplates for no reason, or
is that just me?

Post by Catriona R
I miss the old days. I haven't killed anyone in years.

That's sad.

Catriona R

2014-12-26 00:10:14 UTC

On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 21:48:44 +0000 (UTC), Lewis

Post by Lewis

Post by unknown
Quite a pain if you keep losing tooltips, grumble whine

So that's not just me? By now I have mapped /console reloadui to a button
:-(

Nope, known bug, and very very annoying, I didn't realise how much I
relied on tooltips till they started vanishing :-(

Do you also have the game randomly turn on nameplates for no reason, or
is that just me?

I have nampelates on anyway, so wouldn't notice! Had them turn *off*
randomly a couple of times but I always just blamed it on DCs and the
like...

Urbin

2014-12-26 11:54:31 UTC

Post by Catriona R
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 21:48:44 +0000 (UTC), Lewis

Post by Lewis

Post by unknown
Quite a pain if you keep losing tooltips, grumble whine

So that's not just me? By now I have mapped /console reloadui to a button
:-(

Nope, known bug, and very very annoying, I didn't realise how much I
relied on tooltips till they started vanishing :-(

Do you also have the game randomly turn on nameplates for no reason, or
is that just me?

I have nampelates on anyway, so wouldn't notice! Had them turn *off*
randomly a couple of times but I always just blamed it on DCs and the
like...

Same here, I have nameplates on. And if they seemed to turn on/off for no
reason I would probably assume I had accidentally clicked on V instead of
whatever key I wanted to :-)

Cheers
Urbin

Catriona R

2014-12-23 09:44:44 UTC

On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:10:59 +1030, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by unknown

Quite a few Go here, oh look a horde base along the way , in draenor.
Maybe same for horde but alliance bases seem to be more on the edge of
maps or end of roads.

At least you don't have to dodge a horde town to get into Frostfire
Ridge... accessing SMV by road before you have a flightpath is
something of a challenge, have to be very careful what route you take!

Post by unknown
Quite a pain if you keep losing tooltips, grumble whine

I hate that bug, was around on beta for ages, beats me why they didn't
fix it before it went live, sigh.

Post by unknown
Hearthstone to garrison also clears pvp, which you could be doing to
replace the suicidal bodyguard anyway :-)

Hehe yep, some of my bodyguards are terrible, alliance don't get the
belf warlock, but she's awful, constantly grabbing adds and joining in
other people's fights, seeing her dying to a mob not even tagged to
me, which I never once touched, is annoying!

Urbin

2014-12-23 08:36:36 UTC

I figured I would be safe and started marking the tree for logging. Sadly
the PvP flagged horde mob attacked me and my pet auto-defended me
(without me attacking the mob) and this flagged me. Seems to be a bug to
me...

Not really a bug, it's a feature which prevents you from accidentally
flagging yourself.

Yeah, I read about that here and thought it was great. When I couldn't
attack that mob, I was glad for it and thought I'd be safe, recalling the
change...

Post by Catriona R
However, aggressive pvp-flagged mobs still are aggressive, and you get
flagged even without a pet defending you

Ah, that's what I hadn't realised. Fair enough I guess, just a bit
unexpected :-)

Post by Catriona R
it's been like that for years, I used to often get flagged by
those really annoying guards on the alliance town in north Howling
Fjord

I had the same with the guards when riding through the horde town in Feralas
that was the shortest path between the FP on the border to 1kN and Dire
Maul. I usually didn't bother riding around it (it was quite a detour) and
would just follow the road. You'd get flagged but with luck not be knocked
off your horse :-)

Post by Catriona R
At your current rate of progress you'll probably hit 100 by then! Try
and have a go at the Southshore vs Tarren Mill battleground when you
get there btw, it's only temporary so you likely won't get another
chance, and it certainly brings back nostalgia

TM - SS PvP never really happened on my server (it was PvE) so there is not
so much nostalgia to be had but I might try it anyway.

Post by Catriona R
Molten Core is also only temporary, but you need 615 ilvl to queue,

That might be a bit ambitious...

Post by Catriona R
(IF any groups are actually capable of finishing the place these days, I
have a suspicion most people aren't going any more, as all I hear is that
it's a massive wipefest now the better players stopped - although maybe
higher ilvls are improving it a bit now)

One of my guildies got the achievment late last night, so at least some
groups still seem to go :-)

Cheers
Urbin

Catriona R

2014-12-23 09:49:07 UTC

Not really a bug, it's a feature which prevents you from accidentally
flagging yourself.

Yeah, I read about that here and thought it was great. When I couldn't
attack that mob, I was glad for it and thought I'd be safe, recalling the
change...

Post by Catriona R
However, aggressive pvp-flagged mobs still are aggressive, and you get
flagged even without a pet defending you

Ah, that's what I hadn't realised. Fair enough I guess, just a bit
unexpected :-)

Yeah, caught me by surprise the first time as well. I suppose it kinda
makes sense, but it's annoying!

Post by Catriona R
it's been like that for years, I used to often get flagged by
those really annoying guards on the alliance town in north Howling
Fjord

Hehehe I always rode around that, the worst one for me on Alliance in
the old days was getting through Thousand Needles, as to reach
Shimmering Flats/Gadgetzan you had a choice between the guards at
Freewind Post or going through the middle of a centaur camp - and
often I was only about the same lvl as the centaurs, so they were
actually more lethal than the guards!

TM - SS PvP never really happened on my server (it was PvE) so there is not
so much nostalgia to be had but I might try it anyway.

It did happen on mine but I never did it, still enjoyed the BG though.

Post by Catriona R
Molten Core is also only temporary, but you need 615 ilvl to queue,

That might be a bit ambitious...

Yeah, I did get there within a few days, and without farming dungeons,
so if you did do a few dungeons you might get there... depends how
much time you have to throw at it though!

One of my guildies got the achievment late last night, so at least some
groups still seem to go :-)

Ah good, glad to hear it! I may have another shot soon before it's
gone, was fun seeing the place in a big group :-)

Peter T.

2014-12-23 09:06:31 UTC

Post by Urbin
So far I've had a handful "elite" quests which suggested [3] players. I was
able to solo them all at level. Don't know if any class could do so or if
being a pet class is overpowered for these quests.

There is a single quest where you have to kill an elite in somewhere in
southern arak. My mage and my shammy died several times there, my kitty
druid barely survived thanks to my massive selfhealing while my lock
considered the elite as a just another day at the office (void tank ftw). :)
I cant remember the name of the quest.

--
Peter T.

<https://www.elitedangerous.com/>

unknown

2014-12-23 12:03:53 UTC