Alchemy or Leatherworking

[Tigero]

Greetings All,

So I have this level 61 BE Hunter... She is currently my Main horde
character... I got Skinning and Herbalsim. And it was quite profitable
although I regreted not taking mining instead of herbalism but from my
experience it takes a lot more time to level up than Herbalism. I was
quite careful with my hunter regarding money since I had trouble with
money with my Alliance Rogue and Warlock both 70 with little money on
hand

I basically didn't buy any gear until I reached 20. I mostly rely on
quest rewards and drops. When I hit 40 I had enough gold to buy my
mount and a new set of gear. Then when I reached 60 again I had enough
gold to get my epic mount (something that didn't happen with my
previous toons both got their epics around level 62-64). So by far I
think that money flows well... From 60 to 61 I got around 300g with
most leather and herbs gathered stacked up in the bank waiting for
prices to raise up. .

I am planning in dropping one of the profs when I reach 70 and pick up
a crafting profession... Right now I got 371 Skinning and 345
Herbalism.

I never had a high level alchemest nor I know a friend with it. My
ally rogue got 365 LW and currently stuck needing reciepes that
require alot of reputation gain so I know how painful is LW.

I was thinking about dropping Herbalsim for LW since there are quite
good lw items which are perfect for my hunter... But the market for LW
is limited and its a BIG gold sink

And in the same time I am thinking about dropping Skinning for Alchemy
because I believe that it is quite profitable especially with Flasks,
or utlilizing transmutes. And it has unlimited market since all
classes can utilize the elixirs and flasks and I can turn the crappy
primals like earth into profitable primals.

I need your opinion on this matter...

Thanks in Advance



Tigero... 70 Human Rogue (Daggerspine EU)
Amany... 70 Human Warlock (Daggerspine EU)
Nemra..... 61 Bloodelf Hunter (Boulderfist EU)

[PhilHibbs]

Post by Tigero
I need your opinion on this matter...

Alchemy is the easy option. You can level it up all the way without
spending money on expensive rare drops, just by gathering herbs and
buying vials. Also transmutation can be a good money maker, especially
if you get Sporegar rep up for the Earth to Water transmute, or
"Transmute 4g to 20g" as I call it.

If you do go Transmute specialist, you can save money by taking a
different spec first and then switching. You have to do a quest, at
least I did for Elixir, not sure about potion, but rather than 4
Primal Might (~400g) you can switch spec for I think 90g.

However, don't expect loads of procs on transmute spec, I've been
transmuting just about every day for the last four months and I have
had I think 2 or 3 procs in all that time. Everyone says I'm just
unlucky, and a guildie got 5 primal fires out of a transmute the other
day, I only ever got 2 on my procs.

Another annoying thing is that I use very few elixirs, as I get a
guildie to make restoration flasks for me for raids, so I never
discover flasks or cauldrons. I should make more for solo use I guess.

Hoofu, 70 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)

[Jason Tinling]

Post by PhilHibbs

Post by Tigero
I need your opinion on this matter...

Alchemy is the easy option. You can level it up all the way without
spending money on expensive rare drops, just by gathering herbs and
buying vials. Also transmutation can be a good money maker, especially
if you get Sporegar rep up for the Earth to Water transmute, or
"Transmute 4g to 20g" as I call it.
If you do go Transmute specialist, you can save money by taking a
different spec first and then switching. You have to do a quest, at
least I did for Elixir, not sure about potion, but rather than 4
Primal Might (~400g) you can switch spec for I think 90g.
However, don't expect loads of procs on transmute spec, I've been
transmuting just about every day for the last four months and I have
had I think 2 or 3 procs in all that time. Everyone says I'm just
unlucky, and a guildie got 5 primal fires out of a transmute the other
day, I only ever got 2 on my procs.
Another annoying thing is that I use very few elixirs, as I get a
guildie to make restoration flasks for me for raids, so I never
discover flasks or cauldrons. I should make more for solo use I guess.
Hoofu, 70 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)

Hoof,

In short, you got hosed. :-/

Transmute mastery has been broken for some time, and only procs on
Mights, no other transmutes (there was a blue post on this a couple of
weeks back). I believe it's on the 2.4 repair list, but no guarantees
on that.

As for Alch specialization changes, the cost to unlearn your
specialization is 150 gold. The benefit being that you can then pick
up any other specialization with no questing involved. The easiest of
the three specializations is, I believe, potion, which requires a half
dozen potions or so and a run to the second boss in Bot. Definitely
much cheaper than the multiple Primal Mights required for the
transmute specialization quest.

[Frank E]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:33:36 -0800 (PST), Jason Tinling

Post by Jason Tinling

Post by PhilHibbs

Post by Tigero
I need your opinion on this matter...

Alchemy is the easy option. You can level it up all the way without
spending money on expensive rare drops, just by gathering herbs and
buying vials. Also transmutation can be a good money maker, especially
if you get Sporegar rep up for the Earth to Water transmute, or
"Transmute 4g to 20g" as I call it.
If you do go Transmute specialist, you can save money by taking a
different spec first and then switching. You have to do a quest, at
least I did for Elixir, not sure about potion, but rather than 4
Primal Might (~400g) you can switch spec for I think 90g.
However, don't expect loads of procs on transmute spec, I've been
transmuting just about every day for the last four months and I have
had I think 2 or 3 procs in all that time. Everyone says I'm just
unlucky, and a guildie got 5 primal fires out of a transmute the other
day, I only ever got 2 on my procs.
Another annoying thing is that I use very few elixirs, as I get a
guildie to make restoration flasks for me for raids, so I never
discover flasks or cauldrons. I should make more for solo use I guess.
Hoofu, 70 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)

Hoof,
In short, you got hosed. :-/
Transmute mastery has been broken for some time, and only procs on
Mights, no other transmutes (there was a blue post on this a couple of
weeks back). I believe it's on the 2.4 repair list, but no guarantees
on that.

I that was the case (and it probably was, I don't think I got an extra
in the last month) it's fixed with 2.3.2. I got a double on an
earth->water transmute last night.

Rgds, Frank

[Jason Tinling]

Post by Frank E
I that was the case (and it probably was, I don't think I got an extra
in the last month) it's fixed with 2.3.2. I got a double on an
earth->water transmute last night.
Rgds, Frank

Frank,

Good to know, thanks!

[PhilHibbs]

Post by Jason Tinling
Hoof,
In short, you got hosed. :-/
Transmute mastery has been broken for some time, and only procs on
Mights, no other transmutes (there was a blue post on this a couple of
weeks back). I believe it's on the 2.4 repair list, but no guarantees
on that.

Someone in my raid got a 5x on Air to Fire, or Water to Fire,
whichever. I think someone else said they got the same a few days ago.
Anyway, Earth to Water is profitable enough for me, even if I do end
up giving the waters to crafters for tank gear rather than profiting
myself.

Hoofu, 70 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)

[lcpltom]

Post by Tigero
Greetings All,
So I have this level 61 BE Hunter... She is currently my Main horde
character... I got Skinning and Herbalsim. And it was quite profitable
although I regreted not taking mining instead of herbalism but from my
experience it takes a lot more time to level up than Herbalism. I was
quite careful with my hunter regarding money since I had trouble with
money with my Alliance Rogue and Warlock both 70 with little money on
hand
I basically didn't buy any gear until I reached 20. I mostly rely on
quest rewards and drops. When I hit 40 I had enough gold to buy my
mount and a new set of gear. Then when I reached 60 again I had enough
gold to get my epic mount (something that didn't happen with my
previous toons both got their epics around level 62-64). So by far I
think that money flows well... From 60 to 61 I got around 300g with
most leather and herbs gathered stacked up in the bank waiting for
prices to raise up. .
I am planning in dropping one of the profs when I reach 70 and pick up
a crafting profession... Right now I got 371 Skinning and 345
Herbalism.
I never had a high level alchemest nor I know a friend with it. My
ally rogue got 365 LW and currently stuck needing reciepes that
require alot of reputation gain so I know how painful is LW.
I was thinking about dropping Herbalsim for LW since there are quite
good lw items which are perfect for my hunter... But the market for LW
is limited and its a BIG gold sink
And in the same time I am thinking about dropping Skinning for Alchemy
because I believe that it is quite profitable especially with Flasks,
or utlilizing transmutes. And it has unlimited market since all
classes can utilize the elixirs and flasks and I can turn the crappy
primals like earth into profitable primals.
I need your opinion on this matter...
Thanks in Advance
Tigero... 70 Human Rogue (Daggerspine EU)
Amany... 70 Human Warlock (Daggerspine EU)
Nemra..... 61 Bloodelf Hunter (Boulderfist EU)

I also had skinning and herbalism while I leveled. At 70, I dropped
skinning for tailoring.

As a hunter you can make good use of leatherworking, though I really
don't know what a high level of leatherworking provides. From what I
have been told, leatherworking is a money sink, without much potential
for profit. Armor kits sell nice, but all other leatherworkers out
there are also selling them, creating a lot of competition.
Leatherworking would at best be to provide yourself with items and not
really make money from.

Alchemy is something you can use to make money doing transmutes, and
everyone has use of an alchemist at some point. It will be easy to
level and make money from, but as far as I know, the Mad Alchemist
Potion is the only BoP alchemy item, and its effect is too random to
be of much more than a novelty. So alchemy would be a better money
making choice than leatherworking, but the benefits of being an
alchemist can be negated by simply buying the potions, elixirs, and
flasks from the AH.

Then look at the gathering profession you would be keeping. Herbalism
is an easy way to make gold. As an alchemist, you would be using
these herbs to make stuff. Sometimes, the mats that go into making
that stuff are worth more than the final product. If you can figure
out what herbs are worht selling and what herbs are worth turing into
some product, you could potentially make a lot of money. And
gathering herbs is really easy, especially when you have a flying
mount.

Skinning on the other hand is a very slow process. You have to kill
first to be able to skin. This means you can loot a lot of gray
items, which you can then vendor for gold. The occasional green or
blue item is also a nice surprise. But skinning means endless hours
of killing mobs, then going to find a vendor when your bags get full.
Not nearly as easy as herbalism.

Skinning was great while leveling and questing. All those "go kill x
number of this creature" provided me with a lot of leather that I sold
on the AH, especially when doing any of the Nesingwary quests. But as
I hit 70 and those quests dwindled, skinning no longer provided any
incentive. I kept herbalism, which combined with my flying mount gets
me a good amount of gold from very little time invested, and picked up
tailoring, which I also use to make a little bit of cash selling bags
as well as a few other items.

So, if you're looking for gold, go herb/alch. If you're looking for
good BoP items for your class, look at what high level leatherworking
items are out there and see if any would suit your needs as a hunter,
and if they exist, pick up leatherworking.

[Miikka]

Post by lcpltom
Alchemy is something you can use to make money doing transmutes, and
everyone has use of an alchemist at some point. It will be easy to
level and make money from, but as far as I know, the Mad Alchemist
Potion is the only BoP alchemy item, and its effect is too random to
be of much more than a novelty.

Oh, but they are very cheap to make with just 2 Ragveils and a Crystal
not Imbued Vials. And it heals for more than Super Healing Potions
and almost as much mana as Super Mana Potions. And not BoP, just
requires alchemy to use.

And they do have the Alchemist's Stone.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13503
If you're using health or mana pots a lot, that Equip effect is
pretty nice, and the attribute bonuses are decent too.