Bride of the Embalmer (Eliza's Heart) Impossible with lvl 32 rogue?

[Adam Corolla]

Here are my stats:

Str: 63
Agl: 173
Stam: 87
Int. 34
Spirit: 56
Armor: 1056

Melee Att: 159
Pwr: 280
Dam: 63-84

I have deadly poison on both weapons.

I try using Evasion but with Eliza AND those three guards pounding on me the
dps on my char is still ridiculously high. I barely have time to finish a
heal potion and I'm about to die again.

I try drawing off the guards one by one but they vanish before I can get two
of them, then of course respawn as soon as I go for Eliza.

I tried killing of the guards first, but the DPS on my char is too high and
it dies.

It seems impossible to solo this with my 32 rogue. Then I go out looking
for tips and all I see is people bragging about "I soloed this with my level
2 priest, bla bla bla..."

I tried ignoring the guards and going for Eliza but she's so tough it takes
time, which I DON'T have with the four of them pounding on me. The best I
can do is to get Eliza's HP down to about half before I get killed even when
start the battle with a crit on Ambush on Eliza!

I tried using scrolls to increase all my stats, even fish liver oil to
increase my attack speed by 10%, using thistle tea, heal potions of course
EVERYTHING I could possibly think of. I'm LUCKY is I can get away without
dying.

If I had even gotten CLOSE to killing Eliza I wouldn't be posting, but this
seems completely hopeless. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a trick
I haven't tried, or is this just impossible at my lvl?

[Christian Stauffer]

Post by Adam Corolla
I try using Evasion but with Eliza AND those three guards pounding on me the
dps on my char is still ridiculously high. I barely have time to finish a
heal potion and I'm about to die again.
I try drawing off the guards one by one but they vanish before I can get two
of them, then of course respawn as soon as I go for Eliza.
I tried killing of the guards first, but the DPS on my char is too high and
it dies.
It seems impossible to solo this with my 32 rogue. Then I go out looking
for tips and all I see is people bragging about "I soloed this with my level
2 priest, bla bla bla..."

3/4 of all the thottbot/allakhazam posting aren't worth the bytes they're
stored in, so nevermind :-)

Post by Adam Corolla
I tried ignoring the guards and going for Eliza but she's so tough it takes
time, which I DON'T have with the four of them pounding on me. The best I
can do is to get Eliza's HP down to about half before I get killed even when
start the battle with a crit on Ambush on Eliza!
I tried using scrolls to increase all my stats, even fish liver oil to
increase my attack speed by 10%, using thistle tea, heal potions of course
EVERYTHING I could possibly think of. I'm LUCKY is I can get away without
dying.
If I had even gotten CLOSE to killing Eliza I wouldn't be posting, but this
seems completely hopeless. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a trick
I haven't tried, or is this just impossible at my lvl?

I don't remember what level that quest is, but it's an elite quest. So,
most likely you're not too low level, but you're not supposed to do it
alone, but with a party. Usually outdoor elite quests (in that level range,
anyway) can be done with 2-3 people at that level (which means 2-3 people
to which the quest is yellow).

Chris

[crazyfalnger]

Rogue's aren't the best class for solo'ing elites, let alone solo'ing
elites with three adds. I solo'd that quest on my paladin, but I can
heal and have many undead tools. Priests can shackle....so they can
shackle the elite, kill the adds, heal...fear the elite around....a
druid could probably solo by rooting/healing in caster and tanking in
bear.....a rogue cannot, all dps and little to no survivability, esp at
lvl 32.

Get a group, even one person maybe able to push you through.

[k***@gmx.de]

Post by Adam Corolla
I tried ignoring the guards and going for Eliza but she's so tough it takes
time, which I DON'T have with the four of them pounding on me. The best I
can do is to get Eliza's HP down to about half before I get killed even when
start the battle with a crit on Ambush on Eliza!

The only way I can think of is to keep Eliza in a semi-stunlock while
you kill the guard with evasion on, something like:
Cheap Shot Eliza
Evasion
Target guard
Bring down first guard as fast as possible (Thistle Tea and whatever
you have)
Target Eliza
Gouge
Target next guard
Kill next guard
Gouge Eliza
Kill next guard
Gouge Eliza
Bandage up

Talent build really matters here. If you have Preparation, you have
2x Evasion + 2 Thistle Tea, this could be sufficient.

[steve.kaye]

Post by k***@gmx.de

Post by Adam Corolla
I tried ignoring the guards and going for Eliza but she's so tough it takes
time, which I DON'T have with the four of them pounding on me. The best I
can do is to get Eliza's HP down to about half before I get killed even when
start the battle with a crit on Ambush on Eliza!

The only way I can think of is to keep Eliza in a semi-stunlock while
Cheap Shot Eliza
Evasion
Target guard
Bring down first guard as fast as possible (Thistle Tea and whatever
you have)
Target Eliza
Gouge
Target next guard
Kill next guard
Gouge Eliza
Kill next guard
Gouge Eliza
Bandage up
Talent build really matters here. If you have Preparation, you have
2x Evasion + 2 Thistle Tea, this could be sufficient.

I really don't think that this plan is going to work. Gouge is on a 10
second cooldown and stunlocks depend upon being able to use combo
points to stun with kidney shot. With gouge alone you reduce one mob's
DPS to 60%, with improved gouge that can go to 45% but it's still not
enough. Also, I'm fairly sure that she summons more guards if you take
the first lot out.

steve.kaye

[k***@gmx.de]

Post by steve.kaye

Post by k***@gmx.de
The only way I can think of is to keep Eliza in a semi-stunlock while

I really don't think that this plan is going to work. Gouge is on a 10
second cooldown and stunlocks depend upon being able to use combo
points to stun with kidney shot.

How stupid could I be to think that the word "semi" in stunlock
would prevent that I get these kind of replies.

Post by steve.kaye
With gouge alone you reduce one mob's DPS to 60%,

and interrupt the spellcasting and improve your health.

Post by steve.kaye
with improved gouge that can go to 45% but it's still not
enough.

Oh, this is a fact, hm? Then you don't mind to bet 500 gold
on it, right? Then I level a rogue on your server and
we'll see if a prep rogue is able to solo her.

[Simon Nejmann]

Post by k***@gmx.de

Post by Adam Corolla
I tried ignoring the guards and going for Eliza but she's so tough it takes
time, which I DON'T have with the four of them pounding on me. The best I
can do is to get Eliza's HP down to about half before I get killed even when
start the battle with a crit on Ambush on Eliza!

The only way I can think of is to keep Eliza in a semi-stunlock while

What about Sap?

[Catriona R]

Post by Simon Nejmann

Post by k***@gmx.de

Post by Adam Corolla
I tried ignoring the guards and going for Eliza but she's so tough it takes
time, which I DON'T have with the four of them pounding on me. The best I
can do is to get Eliza's HP down to about half before I get killed even when
start the battle with a crit on Ambush on Eliza!

The only way I can think of is to keep Eliza in a semi-stunlock while

What about Sap?

Only works on humanoids, Eliza and guards are undead.

[pv+ (PV)]

Post by Adam Corolla
I try using Evasion but with Eliza AND those three guards pounding on me the
dps on my char is still ridiculously high. I barely have time to finish a
heal potion and I'm about to die again.

I couldn't solo it at 32 either - I needed some healing support. One other
person will make all the difference though. *

[szpakuu]

Post by Adam Corolla
If I had even gotten CLOSE to killing Eliza I wouldn't be posting, but this
seems completely hopeless. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a trick
I haven't tried, or is this just impossible at my lvl?

You would not have that problem with guards when you not let Eliza to
summon them...
You have means to stun her (kidney shot, gouge, etc)

[Earl Allison]

Post by Adam Corolla
Str: 63
Agl: 173
Stam: 87
Int. 34
Spirit: 56
Armor: 1056
Melee Att: 159
Pwr: 280
Dam: 63-84
I have deadly poison on both weapons.
I try using Evasion but with Eliza AND those three guards pounding on me the
dps on my char is still ridiculously high. I barely have time to finish a
heal potion and I'm about to die again.
I try drawing off the guards one by one but they vanish before I can get two
of them, then of course respawn as soon as I go for Eliza.
I tried killing of the guards first, but the DPS on my char is too high and
it dies.
It seems impossible to solo this with my 32 rogue. Then I go out looking
for tips and all I see is people bragging about "I soloed this with my level
2 priest, bla bla bla..."
I tried ignoring the guards and going for Eliza but she's so tough it takes
time, which I DON'T have with the four of them pounding on me. The best I
can do is to get Eliza's HP down to about half before I get killed even when
start the battle with a crit on Ambush on Eliza!
I tried using scrolls to increase all my stats, even fish liver oil to
increase my attack speed by 10%, using thistle tea, heal potions of course
EVERYTHING I could possibly think of. I'm LUCKY is I can get away without
dying.
If I had even gotten CLOSE to killing Eliza I wouldn't be posting, but this
seems completely hopeless. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a trick
I haven't tried, or is this just impossible at my lvl?

I think it's going to be impossible not so much for your level, but for
your class.

Eliza CAN be soloed, easily, by classes with heavy-damage distance
attacks, such as warlocks, hunters (without their pet), mages, priests,
and possibly even druids. The "trick" is, after waking Eliza, to run
frantically, hop atop the cart nearby, and from there, to the roof of
the shack next to it. All Eliza can do is toss magic spells at you,
and her guardians either never appear, or if they do, they despawn
after you kill Eliza with your distance attacks. I've done it with a
L35 Priest about a week ago. PW:S was a great help, as were the heals,
but I expect warlocks and mages can burn her down faster.

For melee types like warriors, paladins, and rogues, I don't think you
can dish out ENOUGH ranged damage before her magic kills you, although
I have never tried it, admittedly.

Take it and run.

[crazyfalnger]

Post by Earl Allison
For melee types like warriors, paladins, and rogues, I don't think you
can dish out ENOUGH ranged damage before her magic kills you, although
I have never tried it, admittedly.

I know on my rogue I couldn't solo her....on my paladin it was very
easy. I did it at level 29 if I remember correctly. I had awesome gear
tho because I was a twink..almost all blues.

[Tor Iver Wilhelmsen]

Post by Earl Allison
Eliza CAN be soloed, easily, by classes with heavy-damage distance
attacks, such as warlocks, hunters (without their pet), mages,
priests, and possibly even druids. The "trick" is, after waking
Eliza, to run frantically, hop atop the cart nearby, and from there,
to the roof of the shack next to it.

Ah, ye age-old trick of perching. I thought MMO companies generally
tried to remove all such opportunities?

[l***@red-dwarf.lan]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:36:36 -0500, "Adam Corolla"

Post by Adam Corolla
Str: 63
Agl: 173
Stam: 87
Int. 34
Spirit: 56
Armor: 1056
Melee Att: 159
Pwr: 280
Dam: 63-84
I have deadly poison on both weapons.
I try using Evasion but with Eliza AND those three guards pounding on me the
dps on my char is still ridiculously high. I barely have time to finish a
heal potion and I'm about to die again.
I try drawing off the guards one by one but they vanish before I can get two
of them, then of course respawn as soon as I go for Eliza.
I tried killing of the guards first, but the DPS on my char is too high and
it dies.
It seems impossible to solo this with my 32 rogue. Then I go out looking
for tips and all I see is people bragging about "I soloed this with my level
2 priest, bla bla bla..."
I tried ignoring the guards and going for Eliza but she's so tough it takes
time, which I DON'T have with the four of them pounding on me. The best I
can do is to get Eliza's HP down to about half before I get killed even when
start the battle with a crit on Ambush on Eliza!
I tried using scrolls to increase all my stats, even fish liver oil to
increase my attack speed by 10%,

fish liver oil?

where do you get that from?

[WheeZ50]

Post by l***@red-dwarf.lan

Post by Adam Corolla
I tried using scrolls to increase all my stats, even fish liver
oil to increase my attack speed by 10%,

fish liver oil?
where do you get that from?

Questreward from redridge. Some fishy quest.

WheeZ50

[l***@red-dwarf.lan]

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 03:47:28 +0200, "WheeZ50"

Post by WheeZ50

Post by l***@red-dwarf.lan

Post by Adam Corolla
I tried using scrolls to increase all my stats, even fish liver
oil to increase my attack speed by 10%,

fish liver oil?
where do you get that from?

Questreward from redridge. Some fishy quest.

dang. it's an alliance quest... thanks anyway.

[Dan]

Post by Adam Corolla
If I had even gotten CLOSE to killing Eliza I wouldn't be posting, but this
seems completely hopeless. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a trick
I haven't tried, or is this just impossible at my lvl?

I soloed her with my rogue, I don't remember exactly what level I
was, but it was in the 32-34 range. The trick is not to let her
summon her guards. That means attack her initially before she
summons them and keep her stunlocked as long as you can, then
interrupt her summoning spell with kicks, stuns, gouge, etc. Use
Blind if you need to bandage and recover energy, and I think I used
a healing potion too.

When I did it, she did eventually manage to summon her guards, but
she was nearly dead by then - evasion saw me through the last bit.
Killed her, looted her and vanished.

Dan