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Khadgar, you suck
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Lewis
2016-08-21 16:05:03 UTC
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The second part of the Legion quest chain unlocked this week, with you
doing a walk-along quest with Khadgar.

You are *forced* to listen to a crapton of dialog and forced to wait
around while Khadgar walks *WALKS* through first Ulduar and then
Karazan. At least 60% of your time is spent waiting on dialog.

The first time, it's annoying. The second time it's ridiculous. the
third time through I burn with a white-hot fury that makes me want to
feed Khadgar to the sewer rats in small, still living pieces so he can
suffer the pain of being digersted in 10,000 tiny stomachs.

This quest? This one right here? Everything I hate about WoW.

If you start with the Broken Isles and continue to this, you are looking
at two hours. Part three drops Tuesday.

Multiply that by all your level 98 or higher characters. I'm 8 hours
invested so far, and have 5 more characters to go.

I am seriosuly considering paying the kid $20 to simply click through
the quest on the rest of my 100s, since the only combat that happens is
trivial, pointless, stupid, and unproductive.

Basically, it is one long unskippable cut scene with a bunch of annoying
stop points where you have to "talk" or click something. The thing you
have to click you cannot click until Dumbass stops stalking about it.
--
Forever was over. All the sands had fallen. The great race between
entropy and energy had been run, and the favourite had been the winner
after all. Perhaps he ought to sharpen the blade again? No. Not much
point, really.
Catriona R
2016-08-21 17:00:17 UTC
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:05:03 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
The second part of the Legion quest chain unlocked this week, with you
doing a walk-along quest with Khadgar.
You are *forced* to listen to a crapton of dialog and forced to wait
around while Khadgar walks *WALKS* through first Ulduar and then
Karazan. At least 60% of your time is spent waiting on dialog.
The first time, it's annoying. The second time it's ridiculous. the
third time through I burn with a white-hot fury that makes me want to
feed Khadgar to the sewer rats in small, still living pieces so he can
suffer the pain of being digersted in 10,000 tiny stomachs.
This quest? This one right here? Everything I hate about WoW.
If you start with the Broken Isles and continue to this, you are looking
at two hours. Part three drops Tuesday.
Multiply that by all your level 98 or higher characters. I'm 8 hours
invested so far, and have 5 more characters to go.
I am seriosuly considering paying the kid $20 to simply click through
the quest on the rest of my 100s, since the only combat that happens is
trivial, pointless, stupid, and unproductive.
Basically, it is one long unskippable cut scene with a bunch of annoying
stop points where you have to "talk" or click something. The thing you
have to click you cannot click until Dumbass stops stalking about it.
There is always the option of not doing that quest? Don't think it
rewards anything much (695 gloves) and all those quests are skippable
as of Legion release (you can just go straight to Broken Isles so long
as one character has done the Broken Shore scenario), so just don't
bother on your alts if you hate it so much!
Lewis
2016-08-22 00:33:39 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:05:03 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
The second part of the Legion quest chain unlocked this week, with you
doing a walk-along quest with Khadgar.
You are *forced* to listen to a crapton of dialog and forced to wait
around while Khadgar walks *WALKS* through first Ulduar and then
Karazan. At least 60% of your time is spent waiting on dialog.
The first time, it's annoying. The second time it's ridiculous. the
third time through I burn with a white-hot fury that makes me want to
feed Khadgar to the sewer rats in small, still living pieces so he can
suffer the pain of being digersted in 10,000 tiny stomachs.
This quest? This one right here? Everything I hate about WoW.
If you start with the Broken Isles and continue to this, you are looking
at two hours. Part three drops Tuesday.
Multiply that by all your level 98 or higher characters. I'm 8 hours
invested so far, and have 5 more characters to go.
I am seriosuly considering paying the kid $20 to simply click through
the quest on the rest of my 100s, since the only combat that happens is
trivial, pointless, stupid, and unproductive.
Basically, it is one long unskippable cut scene with a bunch of annoying
stop points where you have to "talk" or click something. The thing you
have to click you cannot click until Dumbass stops stalking about it.
There is always the option of not doing that quest?
Not really. It is part of the Legion unlocking. Think of it as akin to
the Dreanor unlock nose-ring quest.
Post by Catriona R
Don't think it rewards anything much (695 gloves) and all those quests
are skippable as of Legion release (you can just go straight to Broken
Isles so long as one character has done the Broken Shore scenario), so
just don't bother on your alts if you hate it so much!
As I said, the first time through it was just annoying. My impression
was definitely that you had to do this whole sequence STARTING with
Broken Shore to continue into Legion.

If I can skip it on all the alts, that would be excellent.

Here's one sequence:

Walk into Kara. Wait for K to appear. He talks. You have to wait until
he's done to click on him. He walks up the stairs to the ballroom. He
walks across the ball room to a force field. You stand there for a while
while he talks. A mechanical "attacks". you hit it a couple of times and
kill it. K walks BACK to the stairs. animates a force field. Then he
walks back to the first force field. He talks some more. You click a
glowing spot on the wall. the force field drops.
--
He felt that the darkness was full of unimaginable horrors - and the
trouble with unimaginable horrors was that they were only too easy to
imagine...
Catriona R
2016-08-22 01:20:08 UTC
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:33:39 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Post by Catriona R
There is always the option of not doing that quest?
Not really. It is part of the Legion unlocking. Think of it as akin to
the Dreanor unlock nose-ring quest.
Only once, so no need to drag every alt through it :-)
Post by Lewis
Post by Catriona R
Don't think it rewards anything much (695 gloves) and all those quests
are skippable as of Legion release (you can just go straight to Broken
Isles so long as one character has done the Broken Shore scenario), so
just don't bother on your alts if you hate it so much!
As I said, the first time through it was just annoying. My impression
was definitely that you had to do this whole sequence STARTING with
Broken Shore to continue into Legion.
If I can skip it on all the alts, that would be excellent.
The requirement is to do Broken Shore once, and then it's unlocked for
all your characters (possibly faction-specific, I'm not 100% sure on
that one, certainly no need to do it more than twice) - the
Karazhan/Ulduar bit is retired as of August 30th, accessible via an
NPC for those who want to see it, but not part of the overall sequence
that is required in order to access Broken isles.

Thought I'd find a source for this to make sure I'm remembering right:
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:The_Legion_Returns_(Horde)

"If you have already completed the Broken Shore storyline on a Horde
character, Holgar Stormaxe will offer an option to skip it and
teleport straight to Dalaran in the Broken Isles, with [100] In the
Blink of an Eye ready for turn-in. If you skip it and wish to play
through the Broken Shore storyline on this character later, visit
Archivist Elysiana in the Violet Citadel in Dalaran."

Haven't got a source for the Kara bit being out of it entirely but I'm
sure I read that one as well.
Lewis
2016-08-22 11:11:46 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:33:39 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Post by Catriona R
There is always the option of not doing that quest?
Not really. It is part of the Legion unlocking. Think of it as akin to
the Dreanor unlock nose-ring quest.
Only once, so no need to drag every alt through it :-)
Post by Lewis
Post by Catriona R
Don't think it rewards anything much (695 gloves) and all those quests
are skippable as of Legion release (you can just go straight to Broken
Isles so long as one character has done the Broken Shore scenario), so
just don't bother on your alts if you hate it so much!
As I said, the first time through it was just annoying. My impression
was definitely that you had to do this whole sequence STARTING with
Broken Shore to continue into Legion.
If I can skip it on all the alts, that would be excellent.
The requirement is to do Broken Shore once, and then it's unlocked for
all your characters (possibly faction-specific, I'm not 100% sure on
that one, certainly no need to do it more than twice) - the
Karazhan/Ulduar bit is retired as of August 30th, accessible via an
NPC for those who want to see it, but not part of the overall sequence
that is required in order to access Broken isles.
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:The_Legion_Returns_(Horde)
"If you have already completed the Broken Shore storyline on a Horde
character, Holgar Stormaxe will offer an option to skip it and
teleport straight to Dalaran in the Broken Isles, with [100] In the
Blink of an Eye ready for turn-in. If you skip it and wish to play
through the Broken Shore storyline on this character later, visit
Archivist Elysiana in the Violet Citadel in Dalaran."
Haven't got a source for the Kara bit being out of it entirely but I'm
sure I read that one as well.
Excellent news!
--
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