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Pally - 1H or 2H?
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Devast8or
2005-10-31 15:28:44 UTC
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Hey all,

My pally is currently lvl 51 and will probably need a new weapon in a
few lvls (currently using Truesilver Champion). I read on the pally
forum at wow-europe.com that someone suggested going 1H+shield at about
lvl 40, but almost all the pallies I see on my server are using 2H
weapons.

I'm not at home right now so I can't check this, but IIRC 1H weapons
only have about 5dps less than 2H weapons, so it might be worth giving
it a go.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? What do you guys use?

TIA

Devast8or
Lehi
2005-10-31 16:31:51 UTC
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Post by Devast8or
Hey all,
My pally is currently lvl 51 and will probably need a new weapon in a
few lvls (currently using Truesilver Champion). I read on the pally
forum at wow-europe.com that someone suggested going 1H+shield at about
lvl 40, but almost all the pallies I see on my server are using 2H
weapons.
I'm not at home right now so I can't check this, but IIRC 1H weapons
only have about 5dps less than 2H weapons, so it might be worth giving
it a go.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? What do you guys use?
Happy Halloween,
My Paly uses 1H/shield almost exclusively. I got an Iceblade Hacker
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=14033 to drop in Scholo, which is pretty
decent. But the main reason is I mostly play in parties. In party
scenario I usually have to take some hits, and it's nice to be able to
have some additional armor. I do have a couple weapons that are 2H
that could do some more base damage - about 5 dps. But an additional
5 hit points per second does not make my paladin a high damage dealer.
Also, this Goblin friend of mine in Maraudon gave me a Hypertech
Buckler http://www.thottbot.com/?i=19976, which is nice for mana
regen.

However, for dps, I have found that the faster the weapon the better.
The reason is that I use Seal of the Crusader, Judgment, then Seal of
Righteousness. So with every hit I get the bonus from the
Righteousness, plus the additional Crusader Judgment bonus. Faster
weapon = more hits for the bonus damage to proc. 1H is usually faster
than 2H.


Bronzebeard PVE:
Lehi - 60 Human Paladin
Bathsheba - 60 Human Rogue

Frostmane PVP:
Laban - 60 Troll Rogue
Korohor - 29 Undead Warlock
Imgame
2005-10-31 17:31:03 UTC
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I am 2hd pally and proc is not based on weapon speed.. it is based on timed
not number of swings
Lehi
2005-10-31 17:52:39 UTC
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Post by Imgame
I am 2hd pally and proc is not based on weapon speed.. it is based on timed
not number of swings
Crusader: "Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy for 30
sec, increasing Holy damage taken by up to 140. Only one Judgement per
Paladin can be active at any one time."

Righteousness: "Fills the Paladin with holy spirit for 30 sec, giving
each melee attack a chance to cause 66 additional Holy damage."

Do I misunderstand? It looks to me like each hit causing Holy damage
(from Righteousness) increases the damage by up to 140 (from
Crusader). I've been wrong before. Regardless of whether I am wrong
or right, Paladins don't do much dps - their strengths are in other
things like being able to take a hit, and healing.


Bronzebeard PVE:
Lehi - 60 Human Paladin
Bathsheba - 60 Human Rogue

Frostmane PVP:
Laban - 60 Troll Rogue
Korohor - 29 Undead Warlock
Simon Nejmann
2005-10-31 23:47:16 UTC
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Post by Lehi
Post by Imgame
I am 2hd pally and proc is not based on weapon speed.. it is based on timed
not number of swings
Crusader: "Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy for 30
sec, increasing Holy damage taken by up to 140. Only one Judgement per
Paladin can be active at any one time."
Righteousness: "Fills the Paladin with holy spirit for 30 sec, giving
each melee attack a chance to cause 66 additional Holy damage."
Do I misunderstand? It looks to me like each hit causing Holy damage
(from Righteousness) increases the damage by up to 140 (from
Crusader). I've been wrong before. Regardless of whether I am wrong
or right, Paladins don't do much dps - their strengths are in other
things like being able to take a hit, and healing.
As far as I remember, Blizzard has said that the proc rate was
designed to be the same no matter what weapon you used - eg. 6 times
per minute. They then achieve this by basing the proc chance on the
weapon speed - so a speed 1.00 weapon would get a 10% chance, while a
speed 3.00 weapon would get a 30% proc rate (if you were aiming for 6
per minute).

As far as I remember this is how they explained most procs work - only
exception being rogue poison which has a static proc rate, and thus
favors fast weapons. But I could be remembering wrong...
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Regards
Simon Nejmann
Brian
2005-11-01 00:44:38 UTC
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"Bother!", said Pooh, as he read Lehi's latest post to alt.games.warcraft.
Post by Lehi
Post by Imgame
I am 2hd pally and proc is not based on weapon speed.. it is based on timed
not number of swings
Crusader: "Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy for 30
sec, increasing Holy damage taken by up to 140. Only one Judgement per
Paladin can be active at any one time."
Righteousness: "Fills the Paladin with holy spirit for 30 sec, giving
each melee attack a chance to cause 66 additional Holy damage."
Do I misunderstand? It looks to me like each hit causing Holy damage
(from Righteousness) increases the damage by up to 140 (from
Crusader). I've been wrong before. Regardless of whether I am wrong
or right, Paladins don't do much dps - their strengths are in other
things like being able to take a hit, and healing.
What he was referring to is the fact that paladin seals aren't %-to-proc,
they're all based on proc-per-minute. So, over a long enough period of
time, Righteousness will proc the same number of times no matter what
weapon you use.

Brian
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