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Lewis
2015-08-23 23:15:29 UTC
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After buying my token I had 12K gold. I now have 47K gold. I have spend
at least 10K gold.

I've logged in every day and run missions at least, done the Tanaan
dailies most days, and at least the random heroic if not all the dungeon
quest from my garrison inn.

Other than stumbling over 41 treasures, I've mad 0% progress on the
flying achievement.

My ilvl was (I should have noted it) about 430 and is now 489 or so.

LFR has been painful as the groups don't seem to know how to do even the
Foundry (which I need for the Lgenedary Questline) bosses.

I've had *many* problems with the game simply losing sync between me and
the server, usually in instances. The only fix is to switch to the
battle.net app and launch WoW again, disconnecting the current one and
getting back in. If I wait many minutes (10?) it will eventually fix
itself, but by then I've obviously been kicked.

Overall? Meh.
--
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torture your very soul, but that was precisely because they valued souls
very highly; Evil would always try to steal the universe, but at least
it considered the universe worth stealing. But the grey world behind
those empty eyes would trample and destroy without even according its
victims the dignity of hatred. It wouldn't even notice them. --The Light
Fantastic
Peter T.
2015-08-25 11:57:19 UTC
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Post by Lewis
After buying my token I had 12K gold. I now have 47K gold. I have spend
at least 10K gold.
Not bad imho. :)
Post by Lewis
I've logged in every day and run missions at least, done the Tanaan
dailies most days, and at least the random heroic if not all the dungeon
quest from my garrison inn.
Other than stumbling over 41 treasures, I've mad 0% progress on the
flying achievement.
If youre doing the Tanaan dailies you have also made som progress on the
flying ach.
Post by Lewis
My ilvl was (I should have noted it) about 430 and is now 489 or so.
630/689, no? :)
Post by Lewis
I've had *many* problems with the game simply losing sync between me and
the server, usually in instances. The only fix is to switch to the
battle.net app and launch WoW again, disconnecting the current one and
getting back in. If I wait many minutes (10?) it will eventually fix
itself, but by then I've obviously been kicked.
Sounds odd. You lose connection to battle.net, dc or..?
--
Peter T.
Urbin
2015-08-26 07:02:14 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by Lewis
I've had *many* problems with the game simply losing sync between me and
the server, usually in instances. The only fix is to switch to the
battle.net app and launch WoW again, disconnecting the current one and
getting back in. If I wait many minutes (10?) it will eventually fix
itself, but by then I've obviously been kicked.
Sounds odd. You lose connection to battle.net, dc or..?
Back when I still played I had similar issues but only in raids. In the
world and in 5-man instances everything was fine. However, in raids my fps
would drop to very low levels and after every boss kill my client would
freeze for between 20 to 40 seconds.

With some trial and error I figured out it must have been addon related (I
used to have *lots* of those), probably something to do with many eventy
being triggered by the bosskill which then all my addons needed to handle.
Disabling all non-vital addons before joining raids helped some (the low
fps persisted, that was probably due to my old machine and the many people
to be rendered) but the boss kill freezes were gone after that. The only
nuissance was having to log off to switch between my two addon profiles
before joining a raid...

Don't know how many addons you have and if they have anything to do with
your issues but it might be worth looking into.

Cheers
Urbin
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Lewis
2015-08-26 09:01:24 UTC
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Post by Urbin
Post by Peter T.
Post by Lewis
I've had *many* problems with the game simply losing sync between me and
the server, usually in instances. The only fix is to switch to the
battle.net app and launch WoW again, disconnecting the current one and
getting back in. If I wait many minutes (10?) it will eventually fix
itself, but by then I've obviously been kicked.
Sounds odd. You lose connection to battle.net, dc or..?
Back when I still played I had similar issues but only in raids. In the
world and in 5-man instances everything was fine. However, in raids my fps
would drop to very low levels and after every boss kill my client would
freeze for between 20 to 40 seconds.
With some trial and error I figured out it must have been addon related (I
used to have *lots* of those), probably something to do with many eventy
being triggered by the bosskill which then all my addons needed to handle.
Disabling all non-vital addons before joining raids helped some (the low
fps persisted, that was probably due to my old machine and the many people
to be rendered) but the boss kill freezes were gone after that. The only
nuissance was having to log off to switch between my two addon profiles
before joining a raid...
Don't know how many addons you have and if they have anything to do with
your issues but it might be worth looking into.
I get the problems with the minimum of addons I am willing to run (DBM,
Dominos, TomTom, Masterplan, and Autobar).
--
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That's-a funny; my last pupil she had-a false set-a teeth.
Lewis
2015-08-26 08:56:50 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by Lewis
After buying my token I had 12K gold. I now have 47K gold. I have spend
at least 10K gold.
Not bad imho. :)
Post by Lewis
I've logged in every day and run missions at least, done the Tanaan
dailies most days, and at least the random heroic if not all the dungeon
quest from my garrison inn.
Other than stumbling over 41 treasures, I've mad 0% progress on the
flying achievement.
If youre doing the Tanaan dailies you have also made som progress on the
flying ach.
Maybe. If so, it's no progress I've seen.
Post by Peter T.
Post by Lewis
My ilvl was (I should have noted it) about 430 and is now 489 or so.
630/689, no? :)
That sounds right.
Post by Peter T.
Post by Lewis
I've had *many* problems with the game simply losing sync between me and
the server, usually in instances. The only fix is to switch to the
battle.net app and launch WoW again, disconnecting the current one and
getting back in. If I wait many minutes (10?) it will eventually fix
itself, but by then I've obviously been kicked.
Sounds odd. You lose connection to battle.net, dc or..?
I don't lose connection to battle.net, nor do I get disconnected. What I
get is the game is no longer updating. I can move, but people are
running in place. This happens nearly always in instances/raids.

I've not renewed for another month. I've been told they are nerfing the
legendary questline.

Of course, the "everyone gets a legendary, but only when it will be
nearly entirely useless" seems pretty stupid. By the time most people
have it, we'll be done with 6.x content and waiting for WoW7.
--
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a Philip's Screwdriver?
Catriona R
2015-08-26 12:06:42 UTC
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:56:50 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Post by Peter T.
If youre doing the Tanaan dailies you have also made som progress on the
flying ach.
Maybe. If so, it's no progress I've seen.
Have a look at your reputation pane ;-) Revered with the 3 Tanaan
factions is one of the steps, if you're doing dailies you're probably
most of the way there, if not already there. Most likely the
Saberstalkers is the one you've not got yet, but the weekly for them
is a good chunk of rep.
Post by Lewis
Post by Peter T.
Sounds odd. You lose connection to battle.net, dc or..?
I don't lose connection to battle.net, nor do I get disconnected. What I
get is the game is no longer updating. I can move, but people are
running in place. This happens nearly always in instances/raids.
That happened to me once recently, it woke up by itself a minute or so
later (I was wondering why people were being SO slow pulling the
boss... then suddenly the boss was at 40% health, weird one. Only ever
seen it once in ages though, so just seemed to be bad luck in my case.
With yours, might be worth disabling all non-essential addons (saw
your list, don't know all of them, but TomTom won't be needed in a
dungeon at least... DBM won't be causing it since everyone runs that),
and maybe checking internet conenction too, maybe Blizz tech support
forum has other people from your ISP with a similar problem, sometimes
happens.
Post by Lewis
I've not renewed for another month. I've been told they are nerfing the
legendary questline.
Of course, the "everyone gets a legendary, but only when it will be
nearly entirely useless" seems pretty stupid. By the time most people
have it, we'll be done with 6.x content and waiting for WoW7.
I'm guessing it'll be like the cloak and the questline gets removed in
Legion, so they're speeding up the early stages to let late starters
(like me!) catch up and have a chance to finish it in time. Also, the
hardcore types think legendaries are "compulsory" for all of their
alts and whine if they have to do the full length chain too many
times...

I felt like the Highmaul stage of the chain was WAY too easy as a
result; I was late and it's already been sped up enough to take only 1
week (across a reset so 2 LFR runs), didn't feel like I earned that
stage at all. The Blackrock Foundry stage is going to take about a
month I reckon, I'm more than halfway through now, still seems a bit
on the fast side but I don't mind a month; a week was too short!
Lewis
2015-08-28 09:11:35 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:56:50 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Post by Peter T.
If youre doing the Tanaan dailies you have also made som progress on the
flying ach.
Maybe. If so, it's no progress I've seen.
Have a look at your reputation pane ;-) Revered with the 3 Tanaan
factions is one of the steps, if you're doing dailies you're probably
most of the way there, if not already there. Most likely the
Saberstalkers is the one you've not got yet, but the weekly for them
is a good chunk of rep.
I definitely don't have that. I did the daily once and decided that it
was too large a pain in the ass and there was way too much competition
over there. I have a bunch of claws, or teeth, or whatever stupid
currency they give you. Buying the totems to kill the elites is stupid,
especially since the elites are entirely boring, they just take a long
time to kill. I was never in the slightest danger of dying on any of
them, but each one took minutes to kill.
Post by Catriona R
Post by Lewis
Post by Peter T.
Sounds odd. You lose connection to battle.net, dc or..?
I don't lose connection to battle.net, nor do I get disconnected. What I
get is the game is no longer updating. I can move, but people are
running in place. This happens nearly always in instances/raids.
That happened to me once recently, it woke up by itself a minute or so
later (I was wondering why people were being SO slow pulling the
boss... then suddenly the boss was at 40% health, weird one. Only ever
seen it once in ages though, so just seemed to be bad luck in my case.
Yeah, I was seeing it multiple times per instance. One day it happened 14
times in a single instance.
Post by Catriona R
With yours, might be worth disabling all non-essential addons (saw
your list, don't know all of them, but TomTom won't be needed in a
dungeon at least... DBM won't be causing it since everyone runs that),
and maybe checking internet conenction too, maybe Blizz tech support
forum has other people from your ISP with a similar problem, sometimes
happens.
The addons I listed are addons that are non-negotiable. If the game
doesn't work with them, the game doesn't work.
Post by Catriona R
I felt like the Highmaul stage of the chain was WAY too easy as a
result; I was late and it's already been sped up enough to take only 1
week (across a reset so 2 LFR runs), didn't feel like I earned that
stage at all. The Blackrock Foundry stage is going to take about a
month I reckon, I'm more than halfway through now, still seems a bit
on the fast side but I don't mind a month; a week was too short!
The only problem I was having in Blackrock FOundry was that the LFRs
were consistently and repetitively grossly incompetent.
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shot of tequila.
Catriona R
2015-08-28 12:30:32 UTC
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:11:35 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Post by Catriona R
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:56:50 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
Post by Lewis
Post by Peter T.
If youre doing the Tanaan dailies you have also made som progress on the
flying ach.
Maybe. If so, it's no progress I've seen.
Have a look at your reputation pane ;-) Revered with the 3 Tanaan
factions is one of the steps, if you're doing dailies you're probably
most of the way there, if not already there. Most likely the
Saberstalkers is the one you've not got yet, but the weekly for them
is a good chunk of rep.
I definitely don't have that. I did the daily once and decided that it
was too large a pain in the ass and there was way too much competition
over there.
Surprised there's still competition there, it was dead last I looked;
all the people who cared farmed it and everyone else can't be
bothered, it seems, maybe just a quirk of my server, else I was there
at a quiet time!
Post by Lewis
I have a bunch of claws, or teeth, or whatever stupid
currency they give you. Buying the totems to kill the elites is stupid,
especially since the elites are entirely boring, they just take a long
time to kill. I was never in the slightest danger of dying on any of
them, but each one took minutes to kill.
I never bought the totems, I just go and do the pet battle next to it
and join in when someone else summons them; the lazy approach ;-)
Might only work on a high pop server though. Btw they may not be hard
for you but they are to others; I've saved a few lives with timely
heals on people trying to solo them hehe. Guessing you're either a
hunter or a deathknight if you can solo those so easily ;-)

I found one of the regular dailies in town gives rep with that lot as
well, so that's handy if you can't be bothered killing the saberon,
goes slower, but it all helps.
Post by Lewis
Post by Catriona R
Post by Lewis
I don't lose connection to battle.net, nor do I get disconnected. What I
get is the game is no longer updating. I can move, but people are
running in place. This happens nearly always in instances/raids.
That happened to me once recently, it woke up by itself a minute or so
later (I was wondering why people were being SO slow pulling the
boss... then suddenly the boss was at 40% health, weird one. Only ever
seen it once in ages though, so just seemed to be bad luck in my case.
Yeah, I was seeing it multiple times per instance. One day it happened 14
times in a single instance.
Owwww. That seriously sucks, I guess if it happened to lots of people
Blizz would've fixed it, so more likely to be the internet route
somewhere between you and the server, that sounds really really
annoying.
Post by Lewis
Post by Catriona R
I felt like the Highmaul stage of the chain was WAY too easy as a
result; I was late and it's already been sped up enough to take only 1
week (across a reset so 2 LFR runs), didn't feel like I earned that
stage at all. The Blackrock Foundry stage is going to take about a
month I reckon, I'm more than halfway through now, still seems a bit
on the fast side but I don't mind a month; a week was too short!
The only problem I was having in Blackrock FOundry was that the LFRs
were consistently and repetitively grossly incompetent.
First 3 wings are easy (can wipe on the Blast Furnace sometimes) ,
Blackhand usually involves a wipe or two in my experience. If they're
managing to wipe on anything else they must be pretty incompetent lol.
:-)

Apparently HFC is harder, that'll make a nice change as LFR has been
far too easy this expansion; sure, some particular fights in MoP were
a bit too evil, but overall I enjoyed having to actually take notice
of mechanics instead of completely ignoring them. I've entirely lost
interest in LFR this time, it's just plain boring with all the
mechanics meaning nothing, and you get better loot from Tanaan (and
got better from the garrison before Tanaan) so what's the point...
real shame as it was one of the main types of content I enjoyed
through MoP. Even if HFC is more interesting, I've got nothing to gain
from doing it, not even transmog gear, so I'm just leaving it until I
reach that stage in the legendary chain.
Peter T.
2015-08-26 12:36:18 UTC
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Post by Lewis
I don't lose connection to battle.net, nor do I get disconnected. What I
get is the game is no longer updating. I can move, but people are
running in place. This happens nearly always in instances/raids.
Sounds like a bad route, bad hub or a heavy DDoS attack somewhere
between you and your realm's physical location. If that's the case
Blizzard cant do anything.
If/when it happens again you can find your realm's ip address and make a
traceroute and a ping <realm ip> -t in your dos prompt.
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Peter T.
skibber
2015-08-27 08:40:00 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
<realm ip> -t
?
/skibber
Peter T.
2015-08-27 10:26:17 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
<realm ip> -t
?
Nevermind. It seems Blizzard's serves has stopped responding on icmp
packets (pings).
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Peter T.
skibber
2015-08-27 19:51:06 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by Peter T.
<realm ip> -t
?
Nevermind. It seems Blizzard's serves has stopped responding on icmp
packets (pings).
Ok
:D
/skibber
Lewis
2015-08-28 09:12:51 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by Lewis
I don't lose connection to battle.net, nor do I get disconnected. What I
get is the game is no longer updating. I can move, but people are
running in place. This happens nearly always in instances/raids.
Sounds like a bad route, bad hub or a heavy DDoS attack somewhere
between you and your realm's physical location. If that's the case
Blizzard cant do anything.
WoW is the only thing I have connection issues with.
Post by Peter T.
If/when it happens again you can find your realm's ip address and make a
traceroute and a ping <realm ip> -t in your dos prompt.
DOS? teehee. No, no DOS here. Now Windows allowed.
--
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in ridiculous pink and blue hues that any professional artist would
dismiss as the work of some enthusiastic amateur who'd never looked at a
real sunset. This was one of those sunrises. It was the kind of sunrise
a man looks at and says, 'No real sunrise could paint the sky Surgical
Appliance Pink.' Nevertheless, it was beautiful. --The Thief of Time
Peter T.
2015-08-28 11:15:00 UTC
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Post by Lewis
Post by Peter T.
Sounds like a bad route, bad hub or a heavy DDoS attack somewhere
between you and your realm's physical location. If that's the case
Blizzard cant do anything.
WoW is the only thing I have connection issues with.
That wont exclude a bad route.
Post by Lewis
Post by Peter T.
If/when it happens again you can find your realm's ip address and make a
traceroute and a ping <realm ip> -t in your dos prompt.
DOS? teehee. No, no DOS here. Now Windows allowed.
Oh well. I'm just trying to help..
--
Peter T.
Catriona R
2015-08-28 12:33:46 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
Post by Lewis
Post by Peter T.
Sounds like a bad route, bad hub or a heavy DDoS attack somewhere
between you and your realm's physical location. If that's the case
Blizzard cant do anything.
WoW is the only thing I have connection issues with.
That wont exclude a bad route.
I'd say that seems most likely; instances/raids are on a different
server to outside world, so possibly a different location, so if
outwise world works fine and instances don't, and clearly the rest of
the continent isn't having the same instance problems (or it would be
fixed long since as Blizz got flooded with complaints), then the route
between is probably the issue. Based on my entirely non-expert
assumptions lol :-)

Possibly worth shouting at the ISP to let them know there's a likely
routing issue (depends if it's an ISP likely to listen and understand
the problem though...)
Peter T.
2015-08-28 15:21:04 UTC
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Post by Catriona R
Possibly worth shouting at the ISP to let them know there's a likely
routing issue (depends if it's an ISP likely to listen and understand
the problem though...)
It depends what class the isp belongs too. :) But yes. Contacting the
ISP is not a bad idea. It helps feeding the isp with some copies of
traceroutes though.

An old and worn-out router or modem can also cause odd network
experiences. The average life expectancy for such hardware is ~4 years.
--
Peter T.
Catriona R
2015-08-29 00:15:06 UTC
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Post by Peter T.
An old and worn-out router or modem can also cause odd network
experiences. The average life expectancy for such hardware is ~4 years.
True indeed, on a similar note we had problems a year or so back,
whenever one of us watched videos on youtube or whatever, the other
had almost no network bandwidth at all, getting crazy high latency
making WoW/D3 completely unplayable. Thought it was a router issue,
since basic net speed appeared to be the same as usual, but changing
that didn't help... eventually it turned out to be the adsl filter on
the phoneline (I have no idea how that *could* have produced the exact
symptoms we got, which seemed very network related, but replacing it
cured the problem!). Ok, so that's only relevant to people who have
ADSL, but it's another thing worth checking which you really wouldn't
think of looking at.

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