Worst class for solo PVP?

[i***@gmail.com]

My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.

Refer to this post for further details about the Warrior:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&pageNo=1

Old, but it's still awesome.

[g***@yahoo.com]

For solo PvP rogues/druids are the best since they can pick and choose
their fights the easiest.

Unless your talking about dueling. Then warlocks can't be touched.

But you were talking about the worst solo. I disagree that warriors
are the worst. I would say paladins are. Sure, they take forever to
kill, but they can't do crap for damage.

[cling]

Post by g***@yahoo.com
For solo PvP rogues/druids are the best since they can pick and choose
their fights the easiest.
Unless your talking about dueling. Then warlocks can't be touched.
But you were talking about the worst solo. I disagree that warriors
are the worst. I would say paladins are. Sure, they take forever to
kill, but they can't do crap for damage.

at what level are you talking about? at 70 as a heal crazy paly, when i pvp
i can do enough damage to take down anybody that i can get a sword on, mages
and warlocks own me but no other class owns me

[EJ]

Post by g***@yahoo.com
For solo PvP rogues/druids are the best since they can pick and choose
their fights the easiest.
Unless your talking about dueling. Then warlocks can't be touched.
But you were talking about the worst solo. I disagree that warriors
are the worst. I would say paladins are. Sure, they take forever to
kill, but they can't do crap for damage.

LoL, maybe 6 months ago.

[akrem]

Post by g***@yahoo.com
For solo PvP rogues/druids are the best since they can pick and choose
their fights the easiest.
Unless your talking about dueling. Then warlocks can't be touched.

Never had a problem killing Warlocks......My rogue is only level 47 but it
can take down a level 50-51 warlock. Cant remember what the level was to be
honest. Either 50 or 51. At first when I attacked it (ambush) then stun, I
myself had these damn little hearts hovering me and couldn't do crap. The
lock was using some type of flare or something to find me while I'm in
stealth after the heart things went away. I snuck up behind, Ambushed, Hemo,
kick, hemo again, kidney, hemo, blind, etc...... and it was over.


Locks and Mages seem to be the easiest for me. It's those damn shammies that
I hate. They seem to be Rogue proof. :)


AkreM

[jerryeveretts]

Post by akrem

Post by g***@yahoo.com
For solo PvP rogues/druids are the best since they can pick and choose
their fights the easiest.
Unless your talking about dueling. Then warlocks can't be touched.

Never had a problem killing Warlocks......My rogue is only level 47 but it
can take down a level 50-51 warlock. Cant remember what the level was to be
honest. Either 50 or 51. At first when I attacked it (ambush) then stun, I
myself had these damn little hearts hovering me and couldn't do crap. The
lock was using some type of flare or something to find me while I'm in
stealth after the heart things went away. I snuck up behind, Ambushed, Hemo,
kick, hemo again, kidney, hemo, blind, etc...... and it was over.
Locks and Mages seem to be the easiest for me. It's those damn shammies that
I hate. They seem to be Rogue proof. :)
AkreM

I can't take this opinion serious at all... if you have no idea what
your opponets skills are, you really have no idea what you are doing.
First you were seduced by a stealthed Succubus, then afterward there
were no flares, if the Warlock summoned a Felhunter, he gained
paranoia, but most likely he could just see you since you were several
levels below him. If you never got deathcoiled, or feared, the Warlock
was either AFK (likely given your description), or somebodys 6 year
old playing on their character.

[drowland]

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&pageNo=1
Old, but it's still awesome.

I would have to disagree. I levelled my warrior to 60 on a pvp realm. I was
attacked often and attacked all non-gray-to-me horde whenever I saw them. I
advanced to pvp rank 7 without going into battlegrounds. I never had much
trouble winning most 1v1 fights vs equally geared and close-level opponents,
even with average level of gear. It's all about knowing the class skills and
when/how to use them. Overpower/mortal strike are godly in pvp with the
right talents, overpower almost always crits. Also, a one-button mashable
hotkey macro to toggle zerk stance and intercept. Another one-button hotkey
that does a cast sequence (ie cast one spell each press, in order as
specified) to equip your 1-hander and shield, do a shield bash (doable in
battle stance) for interrupting casting, followed by re-equipping your
two-hander.

My favourite trick was to charge out of nowhere to engage the foe. My
warrior is a night elf so I would shadowmeld and wait for the enemy to come
within range, they certainly don't expect a *warrior* to pop up outta
nowhere and attack them...obviously on a pvp realm *always* keep player
names on. You'll see the red text of their name long before you see their
toon most times. And the pvp'er who gets the opening move has the advantage
in most fights.

The only class I had problems defeating in solo world pvp was mages, but of
course they have quite the advantage over warriors. Well-played warlocks
could be tricky also, which is why you make another hotkey, that toggles
zerk stance and then casts your immune to fear ability (forget off the top
of my head what it's called). And of course, if a hunter gets the drop on
you, good luck...but hunters have it made against any class if they get the
drop on you.

Main thing I've learned about world pvp, from playing most of my 2+ years in
the game on a pvp realm, is it's all about how fast you can activate <insert
ability here>. Hotkeying those crucial skills, knowing by touch where the
hotkey is, and writing macros to quickly accomplish tasks like what I
described above (which if you tried to click all the abilities separately
would take ridiculously long). The warrior who can spam overpower the
instant it becomes available, execute the instant it becomes available,
instantly do a zerkstance+intercept, sword/board+shieldbash, is the one who
will have the advantage.

Step one of pvp is knowing what abilities on your class counter what on the
target, and when to use them. The other key is, as I wrote above, hotkeys
hotkeys hotkeys to make doing those 'things' easy. If you have to move your
mouse and click on an ability, you're gonna be far too slow in reacting.

I think the worst class to solo pvp with would probably be a holy priest.
Shadow priests pwn face in pvp, but holy...well I dunno. But every class has
it's pvp advantages and abilities, it's all about learning what they are.
Playing every class to at least level 30/40 would also help a ton, as you'll
understand then the bulk of their abilities.
"Know your enemy" - Sun Tzu

[Brian C]

I disagree as well. As a warrior heavily into PVP, the only class I dislike
fighting 1 on 1 is the Hunter because of their ice traps. A close second is
becoming Paladins (I'm Alliance so I rarely fought Paladins prior to TBC).
I'm also talking about World PVP/BGs and not duels. I don't really ever
duel.

Yes, Warriors can be CC'd, but when I get next to someone, I'll kill them in
seconds.

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&pageNo=1
Old, but it's still awesome.

[crazyfalnger]

I'd say warriors are the worst solo pvp class as well. The better
geared a warrior is, the better they will do, but still they have to
many opposing classes. Every caster class can easily shut down a
warrior. Mages don't even have to try. In all reality there is only
one class a warrior will consistantly destroy and that is a rogue.

The above poster mentioned his warrior leveling and pvp. If he is
refering to seeing an enemy grinding mobs and attacking them off
gaurd....that doesn't count. If a warrior gets his initial charge in
they stand a much better chance.

Good thing a warrior isn't a solo class and with their massive armor/
health, they absolutely own if followed around by a paladin or priest
for heals.


As to the poster who mentioned a paladin being the worst solo class
because of their low damage....NO! Paladins are one of the best pvp
classes, solo, and in a group they are even better. I have a 70
paladin a list of other characters, my pally is the only class I
consistantly do well with in pvp. A rogue and a mage attempted to gank
me when I was by myself. I had to blow all my cool downs but I ended
up killing them both. Not many classes can survive such high dps
classes getting the jump on them. Paladins aren't known for their
damage but with a pig two hander and good gear paladins can lay the
hurt.

[g***@yahoo.com]

Post by crazyfalnger
As to the poster who mentioned a paladin being the worst solo class
because of their low damage....NO! Paladins are one of the best pvp
classes, solo, and in a group they are even better. I have a 70
paladin a list of other characters, my pally is the only class I
consistantly do well with in pvp. A rogue and a mage attempted to gank
me when I was by myself. I had to blow all my cool downs but I ended
up killing them both. Not many classes can survive such high dps
classes getting the jump on them. Paladins aren't known for their
damage but with a pig two hander and good gear paladins can lay the
hurt.

I have a 70 druid, spec'd and geared for bear tanking. The paladin
fights were very long, but they never had a chance. I stay'd in bear
form and saved my bash and frenzied regen. I never went under 40%
health for every ally paladin I fought. We're talking 20+ world PvP
encounters while I was leveling from 60-70. I won every one. Perhaps
they were all tards. Perhaps a paladin level spec is different then a
70 pvp spec.

But for me, paladin was an easy HK one on one vs. bear druid.

[crazyfalnger]

Post by g***@yahoo.com

Post by crazyfalnger
As to the poster who mentioned a paladin being the worst solo class
because of their low damage....NO! Paladins are one of the best pvp
classes, solo, and in a group they are even better. I have a 70
paladin a list of other characters, my pally is the only class I
consistantly do well with in pvp. A rogue and a mage attempted to gank
me when I was by myself. I had to blow all my cool downs but I ended
up killing them both. Not many classes can survive such high dps
classes getting the jump on them. Paladins aren't known for their
damage but with a pig two hander and good gear paladins can lay the
hurt.

I have a 70 druid, spec'd and geared for bear tanking. The paladin
fights were very long, but they never had a chance. I stay'd in bear
form and saved my bash and frenzied regen. I never went under 40%
health for every ally paladin I fought. We're talking 20+ world PvP
encounters while I was leveling from 60-70. I won every one. Perhaps
they were all tards. Perhaps a paladin level spec is different then a
70 pvp spec.
But for me, paladin was an easy HK one on one vs. bear druid.

If you went against my paladin I'd be glad that you were in bear form,
since most of my damage comes from holy and is un-mitigated. Most
leveling paladins go ret. Holy is the way to go imho. In your defense
Druids are really good counter to a paladin. Paladins fair well when
we go against classes that can't heal. The classes that can heal we
try and get to go OOM. Druids don't go OOm as often as I'd like.

[drowland]

Post by crazyfalnger
If you went against my paladin I'd be glad that you were in bear form,
since most of my damage comes from holy and is un-mitigated. Most
leveling paladins go ret. Holy is the way to go imho. In your defense
Druids are really good counter to a paladin. Paladins fair well when
we go against classes that can't heal. The classes that can heal we
try and get to go OOM. Druids don't go OOm as often as I'd like.

I agree about holy being the way to go for paladin dps'ing. I don't play a
high-level paladin myself (only have a L45 pally that's been parked for over
6 mos in gadgetzan :), but a friend whom I often watch play discovered the
true way to dps well with a paladin is with holy - lots of gear with +spell
dmg/healing and doing damage via seals/judgements. He used to be ret spec
but found he could deal far more dmg with a holy spec and different approach
to attacking (use your mana to deal dmg!)

Seal of Crusader
Judgement of Crusader (increases holy dmg taken)
Seal of Righteousness (he didn't have seal of command)
Judge righteousness whenever the judgement cooldown comes up.
(Reduced judgement mana cost from talents, reduced cooldown from talents,
increased dmg to seal/judgement of righteousness from talents, increased
spell dmg/healing from intellect)

I believe his build looked something like
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVEu0xzheotxhZVf

All holy-based. There are *SOO* many pally plate items with +dmg/healing in
the expansion, a RIDICULOUS amount of pally plate, just ask all the crying
warriors in the expansion :) , it makes it easy to gear up for a holy dmg
dealing paladin. And the nice thing about this build is you can heal DAMN
good too, so groups will love to have you along in instances.

Favor items with high intellect, +spell dmg/healing, stamina, mp5 and that
makes for a nice pvp/dps paladin build. There are a couple outland 2-handers
with nice +dmg/healing and mp5 & intellect on them, favor these over a
weapon with higher raw dps. The true dmg from such a paladin build is from
seal/judgement of righteousness, not the weapon swings :)

I've seen people also succeed with a slight variation on this build, taking
Seal of Command in place of improved auras. My friend had improved auras for
raiding benefit, it wouldn't do much for ya solo.

[Matt McLeod]

drowland <***@nospam.shaw.ca> wrote:
[paladin holy dps spec]

Post by drowland
All holy-based. There are *SOO* many pally plate items with +dmg/healing in
the expansion, a RIDICULOUS amount of pally plate, just ask all the crying
warriors in the expansion :)

The key bit here is "in the expansion". Until you hit Outland
there doesn't seem to be a lot of +spell plate about the place
so this approach doesn't seem viable to me for the first 58
levels.

As for the spec you linked, I think I'd probably drop
Improved Righteousness and Aura Mastery, pick up Improved
Lay On Hands or Unyielding Faith and Improved BoW to get the
four missing points in Holy, drop the two Protection talents,
and put the leftovers points into Retribution.

So something like this:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=qVxhbgzheotZVfLt

That gets you better mana regen, Seal of Command, improved
parry chances and +5% to melee crit chance.

Matt

[pv+ (PV)]

Post by drowland
Seal of Crusader
Judgement of Crusader (increases holy dmg taken)
Seal of Righteousness (he didn't have seal of command)
Judge righteousness whenever the judgement cooldown comes up.
(Reduced judgement mana cost from talents, reduced cooldown from talents,
increased dmg to seal/judgement of righteousness from talents, increased
spell dmg/healing from intellect)

Yep, this is what I was talking about earlier. It works well, but bear in
mind you're going to be drinking a lot.

Heavy retribution is incredibly boring - try a holy/retrib mix and you'll
feel like more than a warrior without a rage bar. *

[Brian C]

Post by crazyfalnger
The above poster mentioned his warrior leveling and pvp. If he is
refering to seeing an enemy grinding mobs and attacking them off
gaurd....that doesn't count. If a warrior gets his initial charge in
they stand a much better chance.

I said "heavily into PVP" not "leveling and PVP". And no, ganking is not
what I was referring to. I can only speak from my own experience (having
played a mage, druid, hunter, warrior, and shaman to 60, and the warrior to
70); I have no problems with any class, with the possible exception of a
hunter who kites me well. Mages used to be an issue, but I haven't feared
mages in a long time.

[akrem]

Post by crazyfalnger
In all reality there is only
one class a warrior will consistantly destroy and that is a rogue.

That's not completely true...Depends on the Rogue. I should know. I have a
Rogue and have yet to find a warrior to beat me at the same level.

[Fullauto]

Post by akrem

Post by crazyfalnger
In all reality there is only
one class a warrior will consistantly destroy and that is a rogue.

That's not completely true...Depends on the Rogue. I should know. I have a
Rogue and have yet to find a warrior to beat me at the same level.
--
AkreM

I can't see this happening.........I've never lost to a rogue on my
warrior.........

[flopbucket]

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
Refer to this post for further details about the Warrior:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&...
Old, but it's still awesome.

Try leveling a lower level holy spec Priest!

[Einstine]

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&pageNo=1
Old, but it's still awesome.

Not having tested every class blah blah blah I will just give
my opinion. As a warrior, though there are some things that
seem dumbed down, I would be surprised if it is a Warrior.

I am at level 65 and have all but 2 points in protection, and
I do damn well. Have to use a lot of stuff right, and initally
in battles they gain in me, but once I get done with sunders
etc. I start taking them down fast. 2 guys is tight but if I go
to defensive stance with shield, it is not a problem at all.

I will see it seemed like it got easier around level 56 or so for
some reason. I have green weps usually, rarely use a two
hander and dual wield a lot, except in instances or when the
fight gets tough.

Definitely not Warlocks. Maybe priests or paladins? I think
every class has pro's and con's solo, though I do think there
are 2 or 3 that are overtweaked right now.

[Einstine]

Sorry, misread PVP as PVE.

Post by Einstine

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&pageNo=1
Old, but it's still awesome.

Not having tested every class blah blah blah I will just give
my opinion. As a warrior, though there are some things that
seem dumbed down, I would be surprised if it is a Warrior.
I am at level 65 and have all but 2 points in protection, and
I do damn well. Have to use a lot of stuff right, and initally
in battles they gain in me, but once I get done with sunders
etc. I start taking them down fast. 2 guys is tight but if I go
to defensive stance with shield, it is not a problem at all.
I will see it seemed like it got easier around level 56 or so for
some reason. I have green weps usually, rarely use a two
hander and dual wield a lot, except in instances or when the
fight gets tough.
Definitely not Warlocks. Maybe priests or paladins? I think
every class has pro's and con's solo, though I do think there
are 2 or 3 that are overtweaked right now.

[EJ]

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&pageNo=1
Old, but it's still awesome.

Considering even Blizzard admit Warriors are the worst solo PvP class, as
intended, there's not really any room for discussion.

[d***@gmail.com]

Worst class for solo PvP? Any class I play... :)

My lifetime record for dueling (over 5 months) is 0%.

I'm 0 for 1.

And that was accidental, when I misclicked on a player instead of a
questgiver when I was level 3 Night Elf.

[Fullauto]

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
Refer to this post for further details about the Warrior:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&...
Old, but it's still awesome.

Imagine this (it happens all the time on my warrior).


Warrior gets the charge on you.
Warrior used insta-cast Mortal Strike (criting for 2300)
Warrior also hits with a normal hit for around 800
Warrior immediately uses insta-cast Whirlwind hitting you for 1000


Ok............in about 2 seconds, (you are just coming out of the
charge stun) the warrior has inflicted anywhere from 2500-5000 damage
on you depending on crits.

More than likely you are also hamstrung, so pray to god you aren't one
of those dumbass rogues that pop sprint every fight, or a hunter who
needs to be ranged to DPS. The only class I have seen that can take a
melee beating from a Warrior is a feral druid in bear form.
Shamans........gg, you better stay ranged or you get eatin'.

Sure, a Mage can frost nova..........but unless he plays his blink
right (which most do not), intercept and pwn his face.

Warlocks..........bersker rage........GG dead warlock.


I can't think of a class I would have an issue with expect for a
druid, because they can

1) Heal
2) Root
3) Take a melee beating and keep ticking.

[akrem]

Post by Fullauto

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
Refer to this post for further details about the
Warrior:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&...
Old, but it's still awesome.

Imagine this (it happens all the time on my warrior).
Warrior gets the charge on you.
Warrior used insta-cast Mortal Strike (criting for 2300)
Warrior also hits with a normal hit for around 800
Warrior immediately uses insta-cast Whirlwind hitting you for 1000
Ok............in about 2 seconds, (you are just coming out of the
charge stun) the warrior has inflicted anywhere from 2500-5000 damage
on you depending on crits.
More than likely you are also hamstrung, so pray to god you aren't one
of those dumbass rogues that pop sprint every fight, or a hunter who
needs to be ranged to DPS. The only class I have seen that can take a
melee beating from a Warrior is a feral druid in bear form.
Shamans........gg, you better stay ranged or you get eatin'.

The problem is, you have to see the Rogue....All I am saying to you is,
warriors don't last long especially with a well equipped and armored Rogue.
Stun, ambush, SS or hemo a few combo points, Kidney shot, hemo etc..., =
dead warrior. It's that simple. :)

[Chinese Farmer]

Post by akrem

Post by Fullauto

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
Refer to this post for further details about the
Warrior:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&...
Old, but it's still awesome.

Imagine this (it happens all the time on my warrior).
Warrior gets the charge on you.
Warrior used insta-cast Mortal Strike (criting for 2300)
Warrior also hits with a normal hit for around 800
Warrior immediately uses insta-cast Whirlwind hitting you for 1000
Ok............in about 2 seconds, (you are just coming out of the
charge stun) the warrior has inflicted anywhere from 2500-5000 damage
on you depending on crits.
More than likely you are also hamstrung, so pray to god you aren't one
of those dumbass rogues that pop sprint every fight, or a hunter who
needs to be ranged to DPS. The only class I have seen that can take a
melee beating from a Warrior is a feral druid in bear form.
Shamans........gg, you better stay ranged or you get eatin'.

The problem is, you have to see the Rogue....All I am saying to you is,
warriors don't last long especially with a well equipped and armored Rogue.
Stun, ambush, SS or hemo a few combo points, Kidney shot, hemo etc..., =
dead warrior. It's that simple. :)
--
AkreM

Unless the warrior is in full tanking gear. I duel my guild rogue all
the time. We have about the same level gear as we mostly instance
together. None of us has tier'ed epics.

When I start a duel, he leaves the party and goes stealth before
accepting. I just stand in defensive stance with my tanking gear on.

Sure he gets to hit first with all his rogue sneakness. I'm not
complaining. That's the way they're supposed to play. But with full
talents in toughness, shield mastery (more damage blocked), 5% parry,
490+ defense, 20+% block. It's almost impossible to so call "stun
lock" and do much damage.

He only needs to do 14K+ damage (last stand. haha). However, with
crits barely going above 1K due to 52% damage mitigation (on top of
10% less damage in defensive stance.. does it stack?) and high shield
block values, and not actually hitting a lot (dodge and parry)... it's
difficult.

[RogerM]

Post by akrem

Post by Fullauto

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
Refer to this post for further details about the
Warrior:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&...
Old, but it's still awesome.

Imagine this (it happens all the time on my warrior).
Warrior gets the charge on you.
Warrior used insta-cast Mortal Strike (criting for 2300)
Warrior also hits with a normal hit for around 800
Warrior immediately uses insta-cast Whirlwind hitting you for 1000
Ok............in about 2 seconds, (you are just coming out of the
charge stun) the warrior has inflicted anywhere from 2500-5000 damage
on you depending on crits.
More than likely you are also hamstrung, so pray to god you aren't one
of those dumbass rogues that pop sprint every fight, or a hunter who
needs to be ranged to DPS. The only class I have seen that can take a
melee beating from a Warrior is a feral druid in bear form.
Shamans........gg, you better stay ranged or you get eatin'.

The problem is, you have to see the Rogue....All I am saying to you is,
warriors don't last long especially with a well equipped and armored Rogue.
Stun, ambush, SS or hemo a few combo points, Kidney shot, hemo etc..., =
dead warrior. It's that simple. :)
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AkreM

Disarm, overpower, overpower, execute.

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Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
Refer to this post for further details about the Warrior:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&...
Old, but it's still awesome.

Imagine this (it happens all the time on my warrior).
Warrior gets the charge on you.
Warrior used insta-cast Mortal Strike (criting for 2300)
Warrior also hits with a normal hit for around 800
Warrior immediately uses insta-cast Whirlwind hitting you for 1000
Ok............in about 2 seconds, (you are just coming out of the
charge stun) the warrior has inflicted anywhere from 2500-5000 damage
on you depending on crits.
More than likely you are also hamstrung, so pray to god you aren't one
of those dumbass rogues that pop sprint every fight, or a hunter who
needs to be ranged to DPS. The only class I have seen that can take a
melee beating from a Warrior is a feral druid in bear form.
Shamans........gg, you better stay ranged or you get eatin'.
Sure, a Mage can frost nova..........but unless he plays his blink
right (which most do not), intercept and pwn his face.
Warlocks..........bersker rage........GG dead warlock.
I can't think of a class I would have an issue with expect for a
druid, because they can
1) Heal
2) Root
3) Take a melee beating and keep ticking.

And they say Warlocks have an unfair advantage with FEAR. Now to do
all this to a warlock you got to get close. Killing a caster up close
is like stepping on a ant. There is no way I can (Warlock) go toe to
toe with a melee fighter. Of course with curse of exhaustion and FEAR
you won't get close to me. Lots of dots and more dots coupled with
suduction and FEAR you'll die long before ever getting close to me. If
I don't kill you some rogue will sneak up on you and finish you off.

Bragging on how you kill casters is like telling people you can fool a
dog.

Big Deal

Disnia the Warlock, Cenarius

[Fullauto]

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Post by Fullauto

Post by i***@gmail.com
My vote would have to go with Warriors. They can't kill ANYTHING by
themselves. Sure, if they have a healbot following them around then
they'd be Gods, but then with one who isn't? The second worst would be
Shamans I guess.
Refer to this post for further details about the Warrior:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218955&sid=1&...
Old, but it's still awesome.

Imagine this (it happens all the time on my warrior).
Warrior gets the charge on you.
Warrior used insta-cast Mortal Strike (criting for 2300)
Warrior also hits with a normal hit for around 800
Warrior immediately uses insta-cast Whirlwind hitting you for 1000
Ok............in about 2 seconds, (you are just coming out of the
charge stun) the warrior has inflicted anywhere from 2500-5000 damage
on you depending on crits.
More than likely you are also hamstrung, so pray to god you aren't one
of those dumbass rogues that pop sprint every fight, or a hunter who
needs to be ranged to DPS. The only class I have seen that can take a
melee beating from a Warrior is a feral druid in bear form.
Shamans........gg, you better stay ranged or you get eatin'.
Sure, a Mage can frost nova..........but unless he plays his blink
right (which most do not), intercept and pwn his face.
Warlocks..........bersker rage........GG dead warlock.
I can't think of a class I would have an issue with expect for a
druid, because they can
1) Heal
2) Root
3) Take a melee beating and keep ticking.

And they say Warlocks have an unfair advantage with FEAR. Now to do
all this to a warlock you got to get close. Killing a caster up close
is like stepping on a ant. There is no way I can (Warlock) go toe to
toe with a melee fighter. Of course with curse of exhaustion and FEAR
you won't get close to me. Lots of dots and more dots coupled with
suduction and FEAR you'll die long before ever getting close to me. If
I don't kill you some rogue will sneak up on you and finish you off.
Bragging on how you kill casters is like telling people you can fool a
dog.
Big Deal
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Apparently you haven't heard of WoTF and Berserker Rage............