5.4.8

Post by Peter T.
Even more ilvl upgrades. I died a little inside when I read the patch
notes...
I'd just started enjoying many of the other aspects of the game
(ach/vanity item/rep farming, battlegrounds, cleaning up old raids etc)
as all my gear items are fully upgraded. I even considered going for
the Insane title on a brand new boosted char. And now this. :(

My approach to that, is: screw it, I'll use Timeless Coins to convert
to valor and upgrade the most useful slots (weapon always gives a big
boost), but I'm making no priority out of it. I'm sick of valor
farming and won't do it; now you can get it from Timeless Coins I'll
use up some of my stock of those, beyond that, I'll play as normal.
Which at present, isn't on my 90s anyway lol, I log them in for
Celestials and Ordos most weeks, then go and play my ironman challenge
character, else go to D3 - I'll get back to Pandaria in time but it's
a good time for a break at present!

Best thing out of this patch: Going To Need A Bigger Bag being made
accountwide! Even while desperately trying to only really play my main
on Timeless isle, I have two drops on alts (1st/only kill) which my
main never got in many many tries... now I can play the alts a bit to
get 535 trinkets and not have to worry about how many more drops will
happen to the wrong character :-)

Peter T.

2014-05-21 13:14:57 UTC

My approach to that, is: screw it, I'll use Timeless Coins to convert
to valor

Wut?!? timeless coins to valor??? OOooOOH! Found it! Why the
#%¤"#"#¤ did I buy that 100k mount 2 weeks ago? :(((((

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Catriona R

2014-05-21 13:19:28 UTC

My approach to that, is: screw it, I'll use Timeless Coins to convert
to valor

Wut?!? timeless coins to valor??? OOooOOH! Found it! Why the
#%¤"#"#¤ did I buy that 100k mount 2 weeks ago? :(((((

Hehe I don't have the rep for that mount yet, need to spend some more
time on the island if I can find a not-too-populated time of day. Glad
they added the conversion though; other than the mount (whenever I get
rep for it), I have zero use for coins on my main now, so it's great
to turn them into something actually useful :-)

Peter T.

2014-05-21 14:30:33 UTC

Post by Catriona R
My approach to that, is: screw it, I'll use Timeless Coins to convert
to valor

Wut?!? timeless coins to valor??? OOooOOH! Found it! Why the
#%¤"#"#¤ did I buy that 100k mount 2 weeks ago? :(((((

Indeed! I had 15k coins which I converted to 500 VPs, did the timeless
weekly and daily, two hcs and a single hc scen. Vp capped. Took me 1½
hour even without the VP buff. New record /me thinks. :)

My VP cap strategy has changed now. I will farm Firewalkers' ruins with
my mage the next week so I can build up a decent amount of coins (incl.
timeless daily ofc). I aoe-pulled the whole plateau (darkmoon faire ==
low pop realm!) and got around 3k coins just from mobs in 30-40 mins +
2k from daily and weekly.
Every wednesday guildies will spam hc scens for a fast VP cap on mains
and alts anyway so the coins will be my safe deposit in case I will miss
a hc scen spamming or I just need a few coins etc.

No more whining from my side!

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Catriona R

2014-05-21 15:13:17 UTC

Post by Catriona R
My approach to that, is: screw it, I'll use Timeless Coins to convert
to valor

Wut?!? timeless coins to valor??? OOooOOH! Found it! Why the
#%¤"#"#¤ did I buy that 100k mount 2 weeks ago? :(((((

Indeed! I had 15k coins which I converted to 500 VPs, did the timeless
weekly and daily, two hcs and a single hc scen. Vp capped. Took me 1½
hour even without the VP buff. New record /me thinks. :)

Nice :-) Server was just shutting down when I logged on so I'll try
again later, but I think I've got like 70k coins saved, so I'll do
weeklies and convert coins to cap, should be fast :-)

Post by Peter T.
My VP cap strategy has changed now. I will farm Firewalkers' ruins with
my mage the next week so I can build up a decent amount of coins (incl.
timeless daily ofc). I aoe-pulled the whole plateau (darkmoon faire ==
low pop realm!) and got around 3k coins just from mobs in 30-40 mins +
2k from daily and weekly.

Nice, wish I could aoe farm, but a) high-pop realm and b) my aoe dmg
sucks, single target for me lol.

Btw Darkmoon Faire, I'm assuming EU? If so, you'll get connected with
my ironman realm (Earthen Ring) sometime soon, we've been next on the
list for ages I believe. Tbh I'm not looking forward to the
connection, as ER isn't crossrealm-zoned, so it's wonderful and quiet,
but hopefully you guys aren't too busy either so it shouldn't make too
much difference! If you see a grey-geared levelling character from ER
with some variation on Iarnaig as a name anytime, that'll be me lol
:-)

Post by Peter T.
Every wednesday guildies will spam hc scens for a fast VP cap on mains
and alts anyway so the coins will be my safe deposit in case I will miss
a hc scen spamming or I just need a few coins etc.
No more whining from my side!

Hehe :-) I can never be bothered with the valor capping anyway so the
coins are a big step up for me, I'll vastly increase my valor intake
now, and don't need to feel guilty about never bothering farming for
valor ;-)

Peter T.

2014-05-21 16:14:58 UTC

Post by Peter T.
Indeed! I had 15k coins which I converted to 500 VPs, did the timeless
weekly and daily, two hcs and a single hc scen. Vp capped. Took me 1½
hour even without the VP buff. New record /me thinks. :)

Nice :-) Server was just shutting down when I logged on so I'll try
again later, but I think I've got like 70k coins saved, so I'll do
weeklies and convert coins to cap, should be fast :-)

More good news! If youre VP capped already and you spend 3k coins on a
Deeds of Valor you get 150 VPs thanks to the VP buff. This actually
surprised me. But this comment is important:

<http://www.wowhead.com/item=112353#comments:id=1966588>

So dont buy a DoV if you need less than 100/150 VPs.

Post by Catriona R
Btw Darkmoon Faire, I'm assuming EU? If so, you'll get connected with
my ironman realm (Earthen Ring) sometime soon, we've been next on the
list for ages I believe. Tbh I'm not looking forward to the
connection, as ER isn't crossrealm-zoned, so it's wonderful and quiet,
but hopefully you guys aren't too busy either so it shouldn't make too
much difference! If you see a grey-geared levelling character from ER
with some variation on Iarnaig as a name anytime, that'll be me lol
:-)

DMF and ER will be connected soon(TM). So if your ironman is ally we
can meet once the realms are merged. =) I have a "spy" on ER too and
that realm is just a quiet as DMF. But rumors tells Sha'Tar and
Moonglade will be connected too with DMF/ER despite those arent RP
realms. This should happen later this year once DMF and ER are connected.

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Catriona R

2014-05-21 16:39:36 UTC

Nice :-) Server was just shutting down when I logged on so I'll try
again later, but I think I've got like 70k coins saved, so I'll do
weeklies and convert coins to cap, should be fast :-)

More good news! If youre VP capped already and you spend 3k coins on a
Deeds of Valor you get 150 VPs thanks to the VP buff. This actually
<http://www.wowhead.com/item=112353#comments:id=1966588>
So dont buy a DoV if you need less than 100/150 VPs.

Ooh, that's worth knowing, thanks!

Most of my ironmen are ally, yep, got one on horde, rest alliance,
working on an 82 nelf deathknight at present (yeah, dk's aren't really
part of the ironman challenge but I felt like something different -
and getting out of that starter zone is about as hard as 1-55 on
another class anyway lol, just a bit faster) :-) I don't like the
sounds of those rumours, I'd hoped it'd be just the two realms, oh
well, have to make the most of the quietness I guess. Even with extra
connections it's not likely to get as bad as Draenor, at least.

Chesucat

2014-05-22 02:17:49 UTC

Catriona R <***@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
<snippage>

Post by Catriona R
Most of my ironmen are ally, yep, got one on horde, rest alliance,
working on an 82 nelf deathknight at present (yeah, dk's aren't really
part of the ironman challenge but I felt like something different -
and getting out of that starter zone is about as hard as 1-55 on
another class anyway lol, just a bit faster) :-) I don't like the
sounds of those rumours, I'd hoped it'd be just the two realms, oh
well, have to make the most of the quietness I guess. Even with extra
connections it's not likely to get as bad as Draenor, at least.

I thought they removed the Ironman achievement?

<chesucat twitches>

Catriona R

2014-05-22 12:05:04 UTC

On Thu, 22 May 2014 02:17:49 +0000 (UTC), Chesucat

Post by Chesucat
<snippage>

I thought they removed the Ironman achievement?
<chesucat twitches>

Wasn't aware that there ever was one, the ironman challenge is just a
player-created thing :-)

Chesucat

2014-05-22 15:40:27 UTC

Post by Catriona R
Wasn't aware that there ever was one, the ironman challenge is just a
player-created thing :-)

I never knew ironman was achievement, it's not listed in the achievements
window, but I started playing during Cata and someone told me that was an
old vanilla achievement and I believed it at the time. There were lot a
things that happen during vanilla that most newbies didn't know existed
and did not existed, without researching wowhead, wowwiki, and other
sources of unverified information on the Internet.;-)

<chesucat twitches>

Lewis

2014-05-22 16:24:03 UTC

Post by Chesucat

Post by Catriona R
Wasn't aware that there ever was one, the ironman challenge is just a
player-created thing :-)

There were no achievements in vanilla wow.

--
You Bastard was thinking: ...Delta squared. Thus, dimensional pressure k
will result in a ninety-degree transformation in Chi(16/x/pu)t for a
K-bundle of any three invariables. Or four minutes, plus or minus ten
seconds... The camel looked down at the great pads of his feet. Let
speed equal gallop. --Pyramids

Peter T.

2014-05-22 17:48:26 UTC

Post by Chesucat

Post by Catriona R
Wasn't aware that there ever was one, the ironman challenge is just a
player-created thing :-)

There are loads of achs you cant find in the ach window. But they are
all part of the Feats of Strength ach system though.

<http://www.wowwiki.com/Feats_of_Strength_achievements>

Happy farming. :)

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Catriona R

2014-05-22 18:32:25 UTC

On Thu, 22 May 2014 15:40:27 +0000 (UTC), Chesucat

Post by Chesucat

Post by Catriona R
Wasn't aware that there ever was one, the ironman challenge is just a
player-created thing :-)

As Lewis says, there were no achievements in vanilla, and ironman was
only invented during Cataclysm anyway (yeah, people tried similar
stuff before, I know, but this was the first time it took off on an
organised scale, I believe).

Only achievement beyond personal satisfaction is being on the list at
http://wowironman.com - of course some people find ways to get on it
without being true ironmen (of the lvl 90s on there, two were lvl 90
boosts and one pet battled their way up, impressive level of
dedication, to be fair, but not really in the ironman spirit...), but
those of us who do it properly have formed enough of a community to
know and respect the real ones. It's a pretty fun alternative way to
play, long gaps before expansions are ideal for doing something
different :-)

unknown

2014-05-21 16:42:11 UTC

Nice :-) Server was just shutting down when I logged on so I'll try
again later, but I think I've got like 70k coins saved, so I'll do
weeklies and convert coins to cap, should be fast :-)

So 10,000 timeless coins = 2 levels if capped ,
thats pretty easy to do for weapon, chest,legs

then the coins come in faster than ever for the rest
assuming they don't buff the mobs.

Cryptoengineer

2014-05-21 17:16:55 UTC

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Post by Peter T.
Indeed! I had 15k coins which I converted to 500 VPs, did the
timeless weekly and daily, two hcs and a single hc scen. Vp
capped. Took me 1œ hour even without the VP buff. New record /me
thinks. :)

Nice :-) Server was just shutting down when I logged on so I'll try
again later, but I think I've got like 70k coins saved, so I'll do
weeklies and convert coins to cap, should be fast :-)

More good news! If youre VP capped already and you spend 3k coins on
a Deeds of Valor you get 150 VPs thanks to the VP buff. This
<http://www.wowhead.com/item=112353#comments:id=1966588>
So dont buy a DoV if you need less than 100/150 VPs.

So 10,000 timeless coins = 2 levels if capped ,
thats pretty easy to do for weapon, chest,legs
then the coins come in faster than ever for the rest
assuming they don't buff the mobs.

All my gear was capped on improvements, now I have to do it again.

Unfortunately, you *still* can't get more than 1000/week. So you
can upgrade only two items.

I'm using my coins to first buy Burdens of Eternity to use on
suitable items, then upgrading those - this gets me 551 ilvl
items, not bad since I'm not raiding these days.

A few of my items are now as high as 569.

pt

Peter T.

2014-05-21 20:08:36 UTC

Post by unknown
assuming they don't buff the mobs.

Exactly. They dont drop more coins than before.

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Catriona R

2014-06-11 13:24:45 UTC

/wave, we're now merged, it seems ;-) If you're back from Wildstar
anytime, might run into you - Iarnaigdkt is my current active
character on ER :-)

Peter T.

2014-06-11 14:01:19 UTC

/wave, we're now merged, it seems ;-) If you're back from Wildstar
anytime, might run into you - Iarnaigdkt is my current active
character on ER :-)

I was online earlier today. Kvast/mistre/twrgadarn (all dmf) here. :)

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Catriona R

2014-06-11 15:50:44 UTC

/wave, we're now merged, it seems ;-) If you're back from Wildstar
anytime, might run into you - Iarnaigdkt is my current active
character on ER :-)

I was online earlier today. Kvast/mistre/twrgadarn (all dmf) here. :)

Added you just now, the crossrealm friendslist works at least (my
first real experience of connected realms!), saw you were on but in AQ
so didn't bother you, bossfights aren't usually a great time for
random people to start talking at you ;-)

It already seems very busy, just passing through the portals from
Deepholm to SW to Hyjal to the flightpath I saw 6 people... I'm not
used to this! Had to laugh earlier when I saw a trade chat message, I
hadn't even known I had trade chat on until that point, it's usually
dead!

Peter T.

2014-06-11 15:58:40 UTC

Post by Catriona R
Added you just now, the crossrealm friendslist works at least (my
first real experience of connected realms!), saw you were on but in AQ
so didn't bother you, bossfights aren't usually a great time for
random people to start talking at you ;-)
It already seems very busy, just passing through the portals from
Deepholm to SW to Hyjal to the flightpath I saw 6 people... I'm not
used to this! Had to laugh earlier when I saw a trade chat message, I
hadn't even known I had trade chat on until that point, it's usually
dead!

I was busy with getting rep for Brood of Nozdormu and I hit exalted 2
mins ago. :)

Yes. The realms seems a bit dead. But there is life. Lots of raiding
guilds are rumbling here and there and I consider an offer for a spot in
one of them the same day I left my previous guild.

Btw. I cant add you. It says no Player not found.

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Catriona R

2014-06-11 16:15:05 UTC

I was busy with getting rep for Brood of Nozdormu and I hit exalted 2
mins ago. :)

Congrats! :-D

Post by Peter T.
Yes. The realms seems a bit dead. But there is life. Lots of raiding
guilds are rumbling here and there and I consider an offer for a spot in
one of them the same day I left my previous guild.

Good to hear, although I liked it dead lol - I was already getting
spammed with guildinvites even before the merge (admittedly 90% from
the same guild), since ironman challenge rules don't allow being
guilded, it's a bit annoying, especially when you get high enough
level that they think you might be useful soon!

Post by Peter T.
Btw. I cant add you. It says no Player not found.

No space in the realmname, that breaks it :-) Iarnaigdkt-EarthenRing
*should* work, at least that's the format I used to add you.

Peter T.

2014-06-11 16:42:16 UTC

Post by Peter T.
Btw. I cant add you. It says no Player not found.

No space in the realmname, that breaks it :-) Iarnaigdkt-EarthenRing
*should* work, at least that's the format I used to add you.

Ahhhh! Tanks! :)

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

unknown

2014-06-11 22:44:55 UTC

Post by Catriona R
Good to hear, although I liked it dead lol - I was already getting
spammed with guildinvites even before the merge (admittedly 90% from
the same guild), since ironman challenge rules don't allow being
guilded, it's a bit annoying, especially when you get high enough
level that they think you might be useful soon!

Is there any reason you can't block guild invitations in UI ?

unknown

2014-06-11 22:50:44 UTC

Is there any reason you can't block guild invitations in UI ?

Oh sorry to bother you , you probably meant chat spam, haven't had my
morning coffee yet. Newb mode on :-)

Lewis

2014-06-12 00:11:53 UTC

Is there any reason you can't block guild invitations in UI ?

I once created a guild named "NoGuild". Its sole purpose was to allow
people who did not want to be in a guild to join a guild. This was
before banks, but the only thing that anyone in the guild could do was
invite others. No one was allowed in guild chat but me (so no guild
chat).

It might have been named Not a Guild.

I should bring that back.

--
perfectly ordinary books, printed on commonplace paper in mundane ink.
It would be a mistake to think that they weren't also dangerous, just
because reading them didn't make fireworks go off in the sky. Reading
them sometimes did the more dangerous trick of making fireworks go off
in the privacy of the reader's brain. --Soul Music

unknown

2014-06-12 03:17:16 UTC

Post by Lewis
I once created a guild named "NoGuild". Its sole purpose was to allow
people who did not want to be in a guild to join a guild. This was
before banks, but the only thing that anyone in the guild could do was
invite others. No one was allowed in guild chat but me (so no guild
chat).
It might have been named Not a Guild.
I should bring that back.

Ah, but how do you advertise the existence? spam unguilded players :-)

My bankers have their own, except I keep one unguilded to sign charters.
That one gets spammed whenever it is on in SW, a lot.

Someone occasionally runs a reverse invite ,(paraphrasing):
'Hi, AlphaOmega are an elite raiding guild , we raid monday wednesday
and friday nights from 8pm-12 AEST.
You aren't wanted here.
Your skills are so retarded and your gear is such rubbish that you are
not fit to lick our boots.
Go and join GrumpyOldPeople, they will take anybody'

Lewis

2014-06-12 04:57:35 UTC

Ah, but how do you advertise the existence? spam unguilded players :-)

Nope; no spamming allowed. Having the guild tag was advertising enough.
I'd mention it in trade chat in Ironforge on rare occasions.

Post by unknown
My bankers have their own, except I keep one unguilded to sign charters.
That one gets spammed whenever it is on in SW, a lot.

Yeah, I have a banker guild with two bank tabs.

--
'Long Live The Changing Things To A More Equitable State While Retaining
Due Respect For The Traditions Of Our Forebears And Of Course Not
Harming The August Personage Of The Emperor Endeavour!' --Interesting
Times

unknown

2014-06-12 06:57:12 UTC

Post by Lewis

Ah, but how do you advertise the existence? spam unguilded players :-)

Nope; no spamming allowed. Having the guild tag was advertising enough.
I'd mention it in trade chat in Ironforge on rare occasions.

Post by unknown
My bankers have their own, except I keep one unguilded to sign charters.
That one gets spammed whenever it is on in SW, a lot.

Yeah, I have a banker guild with two bank tabs.

Thats not a banker, thats a safe deposit box :-)
But then I enjoy banking and can't play endgame. If everyone did
banking/AH there wouldn't be much point, like what am I going to do with
40 stacks of deepstone oil otherwise?
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56850/deepstone-oil#reagent-for
They sell quite nicely but slowly and I don't gouge, much. I am usually
the only one to have any listed. That and the other vials mats I can
tell there are a couple of people making a couple of VOTS a week.
It isn't even a k a week but I like the banking/ah part ,
1copper/1kgold, just different pixels :-)

The unguilded one has a normal bank full of BOAs and is mostly final
stage sale, junk to me.
If it ends up there it is not selling, a final sale attempt or vendor.
Since I am juggling stuff and stop at any time it is easier to mass mail
to the staged alts as I go rather than come back and try to remember
where I was.

Lewis

2014-06-12 23:18:19 UTC

Post by Lewis
Yeah, I have a banker guild with two bank tabs.

Thats not a banker, thats a safe deposit box :-)

Nah, that's giving me storage for mats whose prices have fluctuated
downward.

Bank tabs give me space to ride out low-price anomalies. I think it was
before Lich King that silk cloth dropped to something stupid like 10s
each or something. I sat on easily 50 stacks of silk until it went back
up. After the expansion dropped,t ehre was a brief period that silk was
going for nearly a gold each, and I sold lots and lots of silk.

I also use the banker as a mule for some mats for alts. Well, I have in
the past, not really any more.

--
'Why don't I feel angry?' GLANDS, said Death shortly. ADRENALIN AND SO
FORTH. AND EMOTIONS. YOU DON'T HAVE THEM. ALL YOU HAVE NOW IS THOUGHT.

unknown

2014-06-15 01:44:36 UTC

Post by Lewis

Post by Lewis
Yeah, I have a banker guild with two bank tabs.

Thats not a banker, thats a safe deposit box :-)

Nah, that's giving me storage for mats whose prices have fluctuated
downward.
Bank tabs give me space to ride out low-price anomalies. I think it was
before Lich King that silk cloth dropped to something stupid like 10s
each or something. I sat on easily 50 stacks of silk until it went back
up. After the expansion dropped,t ehre was a brief period that silk was
going for nearly a gold each, and I sold lots and lots of silk.
I also use the banker as a mule for some mats for alts. Well, I have in
the past, not really any more.

Thats not a knife, this is a knife :-)
Real bankers have 5+ tabs each. You spend time playing endgame, I spend
time rearranging bank icons, darn that tab is full of ghost iron, better
buy a new tab. Not that I am a real banker, I just quiet enjoy the
calculations of returns/deposit/ahcut and the making pretty arrangements
of mats, a half column really annoys me.

Predicting what direction markets will go at expansion is just coin
flipping. Probably they will go up, but the gold is going to be worth
much less soon. Apart from rares it is just what people can't be
bothered spending time to do themselves or want right now for a recipe
or level they want.
While the free chars could get profs there will be a lot who just
powerup asap, so that could ramp up older mats. Who knows.

I am trying to draw down old content stuff, but people keep selling low
in batches and not storing, then their items expire and there is nothing
on the market, so I fill it at a reasonable longer term level. No matter
what I do I end up with more stock to organise and more gold coloured
pixels :-)
Not a lot, but quiet nicely, I am not some megagold wheeler dealer
with a handle on every item, if you look up undermine some are posting
24/7/52. Hmmm. I just post a few weeks every few months so probably have
less than someone just doing dailies all year.

On the upswings some of the 'real' bankers get quiet precious about
their markets when something they have been gouging the market
mercilessly for drops to 1/2 or 1/4 what they are used to, it is like I
am hijacking their pension plan or something. Maybe I am? :-)

I know some things I put up for 20g and shift regularly go up for 100g
and don't seem to shift when I am away, they gouge, I like the process
of selling, not selling means I made a mistake on estimating demand
today. There isn't anything wrong with my calculations but I didn't
understand what the customer would want. Sad shopkeeper.

Urbin

2014-06-16 09:49:13 UTC

Post by unknown
Thats not a knife, this is a knife :-)

They should add this to some NPC conversation in the wetlands when you're
about to go croc hunting (or maybe rather in SW before you go thug hunting
:-)

Cheers
Urbin, who was still young when Mick went to the city ;-)

Catriona R

2014-06-12 00:50:45 UTC

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:14:55 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |

Is there any reason you can't block guild invitations in UI ?

I have done, still get the whispers though :-) The enormous, 4-5 line
whispers that one guild was sending me every 2-3 hours, sigh... I hate
that addon :-P

I use a mod to block invites rather than the default UI option (mod
also blocks duel requests, trades from randoms, etc etc), and I left
notifications of blocked stuff on for the fun of seeing how many I
got... 6 today, the fun of everybody trying to recruit post-merge I
guess! It was 6 different guilds too, none of them the one which was
annoying me pre-merge :-)

unknown

2014-06-12 02:36:02 UTC

Post by Catriona R
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:14:55 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |

Is there any reason you can't block guild invitations in UI ?

I have done, still get the whispers though :-) The enormous, 4-5 line
whispers that one guild was sending me every 2-3 hours, sigh... I hate
that addon :-P
I use a mod to block invites rather than the default UI option (mod
also blocks duel requests, trades from randoms, etc etc), and I left
notifications of blocked stuff on for the fun of seeing how many I
got... 6 today, the fun of everybody trying to recruit post-merge I
guess! It was 6 different guilds too, none of them the one which was
annoying me pre-merge :-)

I create extra panels on the log and filter for types.
My usual realm is getting connected today, or tomorrow, US time soon anyway.
I will have to resub some time and get banker slots on the other realm,
and see what it has done to the AH. I spend many happy hours
reorganising bankers for specific types of goods, more inventory space
to spend time reorganising yay :-)

Is there any mention if the connection is permanent or
for e.g. months and sometimes rearranged to spread populations of
connected realm groups? Wouldn't do to have loot laden bankers suddenly
get connected somewhere else.

Catriona R

2014-06-12 11:24:10 UTC

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 12:06:02 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by Catriona R
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:14:55 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |

Is there any reason you can't block guild invitations in UI ?

I have done, still get the whispers though :-) The enormous, 4-5 line
whispers that one guild was sending me every 2-3 hours, sigh... I hate
that addon :-P
I use a mod to block invites rather than the default UI option (mod
also blocks duel requests, trades from randoms, etc etc), and I left
notifications of blocked stuff on for the fun of seeing how many I
got... 6 today, the fun of everybody trying to recruit post-merge I
guess! It was 6 different guilds too, none of them the one which was
annoying me pre-merge :-)

Hehe cool, I'm certainly hoping it's added a few buyers onto the AH on
my newly merged realm, I don't sell much there, as my version of the
ironman challenge includes not using the AH, but some items look too
good to just vendor* so I have a banker selling those and then buying
pets for my main with the profits (yay for accountwide stuff!). so
far, not a lot actually sells, maybe it'll change now our population
seems to have more than doubled!

*I was most annoyed when a very (very very) rare tailoring recipe
dropped on that server... my main server tailor does not know this
recipe, because I've never seen it on sale for less than 50k gold...
:-( Should've gouged the price when selling it but the pop is so low
it didn't seem worth not selling it for ages so I sold it for 500g
lol.

Post by unknown
Is there any mention if the connection is permanent or
for e.g. months and sometimes rearranged to spread populations of
connected realm groups? Wouldn't do to have loot laden bankers suddenly
get connected somewhere else.

Pretty sure they're permanent - Blizz would have tons of very upset
people if they let everyone join guilds together etc, then split them
up again!

Peter T.

2014-06-12 13:48:15 UTC

Post by Catriona R
*I was most annoyed when a very (very very) rare tailoring recipe
dropped on that server... my main server tailor does not know this
recipe, because I've never seen it on sale for less than 50k gold...
:-( Should've gouged the price when selling it but the pop is so low
it didn't seem worth not selling it for ages so I sold it for 500g
lol.

Which one was it?

--
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Catriona R

2014-06-12 13:55:03 UTC

Which one was it?

Star belt, I didn't even realise quite how rare it was at the time,
but even wowhead agrees average buyout (presumably over several
servers) at almost 50k... insane! http://www.wowhead.com/item=4356

Probably should've coughed up real money to transfer it to my main
server lol, pretty sure I'll never see it again :-P

unknown

2014-06-12 22:28:51 UTC

Post by Peter T.
Which one was it?

Star belt, I didn't even realise quite how rare it was at the time,
but even wowhead agrees average buyout (presumably over several
servers) at almost 50k... insane! http://www.wowhead.com/item=4356
Probably should've coughed up real money to transfer it to my main
server lol, pretty sure I'll never see it again :-P

Or just stashed it until before the expansion.
Buyout figures are largely rubbish for rare old content items.

To sell it has to be up advertised, someone has to want something not
very useful, the have to notice it and have gold for the ridiculously
high prices someone else paid.

Probably better you didn't even look it up, it makes you desire the
higher figure and sad you don't get it..the chance the outcome is good
diminishes with the magnitude.

I have a dozen notionally 10-50k items that rarely shift, nearly as
rarely as their drop rate.
I think the best chance is shortly before and after expansion. At
least there are more players on and with the hyper inflation they could
get more gold. I treat them like bonds, compact gold tokens that may
one day return their face value. Maybe some time in 2018.

unknown

2014-06-12 22:56:19 UTC

Post by Catriona R
Probably should've coughed up real money to transfer it to my main
server lol, pretty sure I'll never see it again :-P

They aren't even THAT rare, OR don't sell for the prices asked and dwell
a long time on the AH.
https://theunderminejournal.com/item.php?realm=A-Caelestrasz&item=4356
If anyone -really- wanted they could spawn alts on servers to check then
go server hopping to try and pick one up. I suppose.

the graph at the bottom shows available in darker grey
there are a smattering of '1 available'

Rares are fliers, randoms not commodity market so the figures are very
unreliable, they aren't quantifiable. They bias themselves and people
use extreme figures to estimate the next prices.

Catriona R

2014-06-13 00:08:39 UTC

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:26:19 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by Catriona R
Probably should've coughed up real money to transfer it to my main
server lol, pretty sure I'll never see it again :-P

Heh, that's pretty interesting, bit over my head but I think I get it
lol.
https://eu.theunderminejournal.com/item.php?realm=H-Draenor&item=4356
is it on my realm, if only I'd checked the day (well, 5 minutes,
probably) last year when it was 10g! It's 70k today.... :-P

Post by unknown
Rares are fliers, randoms not commodity market so the figures are very
unreliable, they aren't quantifiable. They bias themselves and people
use extreme figures to estimate the next prices.

True enough, but, people do sometimes pay the silly prices, if they're
a collector and really want it. That being said, I've got some
no-longer obtainable vanilla recipes kicking around on an alt, took
about 3 months of relisting to get one to sell at 10k, think I'll wait
a bit before trying to do the rest, it got boring :-P

unknown

2014-06-13 00:52:47 UTC

Post by Catriona R
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:26:19 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by Catriona R
Probably should've coughed up real money to transfer it to my main
server lol, pretty sure I'll never see it again :-P

Thats shows 15 -on the ah- in EU and the history shows 1,2,3 just on
Draenor for years. There could be dozens more in banks.
It looks like they just don't shift at the prices asked so they aren't
worth 70k, until one person in EU has 70k spare and wants one. Then only
one on onw server for a few seconds is 'worth' that level.

Interestingly all those available in that snapshot are horde, good old
horde, so very very hopeful :-)

Of course taking these figures is a bit of a gamble, don't control the
gathering, don't know how accurate, don't really know what sold what
didn't and which items are the same item on it's 100th posting.
I could be completely wrong about availability and price but I reckon
you lost a few k gold and saved yourself a few k gold in wasted
reposting time. Breakeven, maybe.

If you click on the data point it can give the seller, then you can
examine the seller history . If you want something bad enough you could
probably contact the seller and organise a direct sale before server
transfer.
The few I looked at indicate most are held by serial bankers, likely
they bought them earlier at lower prices. When bankers/sellers set the
price you are in a mugs game.

Catriona R

2014-06-13 01:39:12 UTC

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:22:47 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by Catriona R
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:26:19 +0930, | || ||| ||||| || |

Post by Catriona R
Probably should've coughed up real money to transfer it to my main
server lol, pretty sure I'll never see it again :-P

Yep, not really bothered about the lost money as I have no use for it
on that server (other than buying accountwide pets and suchlike... of
which there is not a high supply anyway). More just curious if I'll
ever get it on my main tailor, given I'm just a little unwilling to
spend 70k on it lol :-)

Post by unknown
If you click on the data point it can give the seller, then you can
examine the seller history . If you want something bad enough you could
probably contact the seller and organise a direct sale before server
transfer.
The few I looked at indicate most are held by serial bankers, likely
they bought them earlier at lower prices. When bankers/sellers set the
price you are in a mugs game.

Heh true enough. On Alliance side, my rogue is a leatherworker and so
I check for recipes there... 90% of recipes listed are listed by the
same person, at prices which I think are excessively high -
admittedly, supply on alliance is very low, due to low pop... but
equally, so is demand, so it's daft keeping everything up at high
prices forever, I bet that guy never actually sells anything.

unknown

2014-05-21 15:31:43 UTC