Legion info from Blizzcon

[Catriona R]

Some pretty interesting stuff in the panel just now (when I finally
got through the nonstop buffering, for a paid stream it was awful...),
IF the reality lives up to it, then I think Legion will at least be an
improvement on WoD, I'm wary of being more optimistic till I see more
but it seems to have potential ;-) Stuff that interested me includes:

Scaling mobs/zones below lvl 110, so you can do the levelling zones in
any order (hooray, might be the first expansion since Wrath that it's
actually bloody playable on my server then, if we all spread out
across 4 zones instead of 4k+ people all trying to do the same few
quests at once), and rewards likewise scale. I especially like the
sound of *everything* then being usable as max lvl content, always
found it a shame that you rarely go back to some pretty cool zones,
just because they're low lvl.

Endgame world content, reminded me of the D3 bounty system tbh, stuff
to do all over the map, and pick what you like the look of, with none
of it daily, but varying lengths of availability, so not daily chores.
It certainly seems likely to be a huge improvement over WoD's (lack
of) endgame, whether it has lasting power remains to be seen. This is
the one which really needs to work for me.

Dungeons ending the main storylines again, well actually my first
thought was "oh no" because I really don't like pugging dungeons. But
with that said, I did bother with them more when they were actually
relevant and part of the story, rather than standalone places with no
connection to anything much. Maybe this time out I'll last more than 4
dungeons into an expansion before hitting a pug bad enough to put me
off trying any more... :-P

We'll see, it might be better this time out at least, if what they're
talking about actually happens (and I note everything they showed
seems pretty near finished, maybe they've given up showing concepts
because people really don't like it when stuff doesn't happen) At the
very least the zones look graphically awesome, as usual, so I'll
certainly enjoy exploring it, whatever may happen after that. (Also
druids enjoy your new moonkin/aquatic forms, they look tons better!)

[Lewis]

Post by Catriona R
Some pretty interesting stuff in the panel just now (when I finally
got through the nonstop buffering, for a paid stream it was awful...),
IF the reality lives up to it, then I think Legion will at least be an
improvement on WoD,

That is what is known as "damning with faint praise."

the only interesting thing that I've heard so far is that Blizzard will
no longer release subscriber numbers.

Yep, that's a sure sign they're doing well!

Post by Catriona R
Scaling mobs/zones below lvl 110, so you can do the levelling zones in
any order (hooray, might be the first expansion since Wrath that it's
actually bloody playable on my server then, if we all spread out
across 4 zones instead of 4k+ people all trying to do the same few
quests at once), and rewards likewise scale. I especially like the
sound of *everything* then being usable as max lvl content, always
found it a shame that you rarely go back to some pretty cool zones,
just because they're low lvl.

This applies to ALL the zones? I was told that this was for the starting
zones (up to level 98 or so) only and that it specifically did NOT apply
to the new content.

[Catriona R]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:13:08 -0000 (UTC), Lewis

Post by Lewis

Post by Catriona R
Some pretty interesting stuff in the panel just now (when I finally
got through the nonstop buffering, for a paid stream it was awful...),
IF the reality lives up to it, then I think Legion will at least be an
improvement on WoD,

That is what is known as "damning with faint praise."

Well, it's me trying not to get overly optimistic after being so badly
let down last time. I actually really like the sound of it! But I also
liked the sound of WoD....

Post by Lewis
the only interesting thing that I've heard so far is that Blizzard will
no longer release subscriber numbers.
Yep, that's a sure sign they're doing well!

Or they're bored of the feeding frenzy and screams of "WoW is
dying!!!" every single time, no matter whether it goes well or
badly... but yeah, timing on that change is interesting.

Post by Lewis

Post by Catriona R
Scaling mobs/zones below lvl 110, so you can do the levelling zones in
any order (hooray, might be the first expansion since Wrath that it's
actually bloody playable on my server then, if we all spread out
across 4 zones instead of 4k+ people all trying to do the same few
quests at once), and rewards likewise scale. I especially like the
sound of *everything* then being usable as max lvl content, always
found it a shame that you rarely go back to some pretty cool zones,
just because they're low lvl.

This applies to ALL the zones? I was told that this was for the starting
zones (up to level 98 or so) only and that it specifically did NOT apply
to the new content.

Other way was what I understood - new content only, not old content,
at least there was no mention of anything below the Legion zones. It's
*definitely* for the new content, since they made a point of it being
that you can do the new zones in whatever order you want, instead of
always having to take much the same route.

I look forward to that one on two fronts: one, less overcrowding in
the Horde starter zone on my server, and two, much as I like questing,
it gets boring doing the exact same stuff on each alt, and you always
have to do a big chunk of the first zone in order to get high enough
to reach the 2nd or 3rd zones, it'll be nice to vary which zones I do
now.

(The downside is it completely wrecks ironman challenge levelling,
hopefully Draenor mobs stay green up to 110, since at high lvls it's
simply impossible to kill same lvl mobs as an ironman, oh well!)

[Lewis]

Post by Catriona R
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:13:08 -0000 (UTC), Lewis

Post by Lewis

Post by Catriona R
Some pretty interesting stuff in the panel just now (when I finally
got through the nonstop buffering, for a paid stream it was awful...),
IF the reality lives up to it, then I think Legion will at least be an
improvement on WoD,

That is what is known as "damning with faint praise."

Well, it's me trying not to get overly optimistic after being so badly
let down last time. I actually really like the sound of it! But I also
liked the sound of WoD....

Post by Lewis
the only interesting thing that I've heard so far is that Blizzard will
no longer release subscriber numbers.
Yep, that's a sure sign they're doing well!

Or they're bored of the feeding frenzy and screams of "WoW is
dying!!!" every single time, no matter whether it goes well or
badly... but yeah, timing on that change is interesting.

Post by Lewis

Post by Catriona R
Scaling mobs/zones below lvl 110, so you can do the levelling zones in
any order (hooray, might be the first expansion since Wrath that it's
actually bloody playable on my server then, if we all spread out
across 4 zones instead of 4k+ people all trying to do the same few
quests at once), and rewards likewise scale. I especially like the
sound of *everything* then being usable as max lvl content, always
found it a shame that you rarely go back to some pretty cool zones,
just because they're low lvl.

This applies to ALL the zones? I was told that this was for the starting
zones (up to level 98 or so) only and that it specifically did NOT apply
to the new content.

Other way was what I understood - new content only, not old content,
at least there was no mention of anything below the Legion zones. It's
*definitely* for the new content, since they made a point of it being
that you can do the new zones in whatever order you want, instead of
always having to take much the same route.

OK. As I implied, my info is second-hand.

Post by Catriona R
I look forward to that one on two fronts: one, less overcrowding in
the Horde starter zone on my server, and two, much as I like questing,
it gets boring doing the exact same stuff on each alt, and you always
have to do a big chunk of the first zone in order to get high enough
to reach the 2nd or 3rd zones, it'll be nice to vary which zones I do
now.

Yeah, it sounds like an improvement. I doubt I will be buying it, though
maybe I will. Maybe.

[Catriona R]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 03:04:29 -0000 (UTC), Lewis

Post by Lewis

Post by Catriona R
I look forward to that one on two fronts: one, less overcrowding in
the Horde starter zone on my server, and two, much as I like questing,
it gets boring doing the exact same stuff on each alt, and you always
have to do a big chunk of the first zone in order to get high enough
to reach the 2nd or 3rd zones, it'll be nice to vary which zones I do
now.

Yeah, it sounds like an improvement. I doubt I will be buying it, though
maybe I will. Maybe.

Understandable, after WoD really. I will be getting it, but only one
copy at first, and not on pre-order until the last minute (usually I
preorder it for both my accounts asap) - Blizz no longer have my
unquestioning loyalty, but I'll give them one more chance, since it
sounds like they've learned some lessons. The very fact that they
included a 5 mins plus segment about endgame questing suggests they've
realised how much the WoD endgame let people down, normally they
barely mention anything outside raids and dungeons!

[Catriona R]

Place bets on how fast the instance servers fall over on patch 7.0
release day as everyone starts filling up those transmog collaction
slots... I can't wait for that, heard a while back that they wanted to
do it like the D3 system but it's even better than I expected,
awesome. :-)

Dammit Blizz, I'm really struggling to maintain a cautious attitude
here, everything sounds great so far!